Re: [kde-artists] please turn off label animations...

On 01/05/2010 02:12 PM, Nuno Pinheiro wrote:
> On Tuesday, 5 de January de 2010 20:43:42 Hugo Pereira Da Costa wrote:
>    
>>> Matthew the oxygen animations are extremely subtle and not on your face,
>>> mostly fade in and fade out glows and transitions, the particular
>>> animation we are talking about makes IMO certain aspect of the UI look
>>> much more polished as the "flickering" is attenuated , i don't think that
>>> most cases it causes a usability problem and think that we can come up
>>> with some solution for specific problems,
>>>
>>> I'm not saying I don't agree with you, i see your point and even agree
>>> that in some specific cases it might be annoying, but i fell the bonus
>>> overlaps the negative points, and its worth trying to solve those
>>> negative points one by one.
>>>
>>> suggestion make the speed of this animation faster so its even less
>>> obstructive but keeps a bit of the transitory effect.
>>>        
>> Right now the label transition is 150 msec long.
>>      
For the record I just set the animation to 75msec and committed 
(apparently kde4.4 has not been branched yet).
>> I can make it shorter (100 msec or even 50 msec).
>> In fact you (Matthew, Nuno) can test by adding:
>>
>> LabelTransitionsDuration=50
>>
>> in ~/.kde4/share/config/oxygenrc
>>
>> (or ~/.kde/...)
>>
>> under the [Style] section.
>>
>>
>> Nuno: could you try ksysguard with these animations ? Look at the
>> "system load" tab, containing graphs.
>>      
> OO i just love the animation im totally biased i even have the time set to
> twice a s long :D I dont think it make the application look less responsive to
> me it just looks more polished, specially because in this case the numbers
> really do jump and with the animation it looks as they transition from A to B
> and not jump, witch i gees is even more accurate.
>
>    
>> Matthew: I do agree that the label animation in this case is somewhat
>> overkill/annoying, because the labels are updated every seconds,
>> although I don't find it intrusive enough to alter the user experience
>> (but that's only my opinion). Now I also agree with Nuno that IMO this
>> is not the majority of cases and that in many cases the animation does
>> look/feel good. In enough cases in fact so that I would rather keep the
>> animation ON by default.
>>
>> On your suggestion to turn off the animation, since we're in string
>> freeze, I can't add an option to disable this animation only. So that
>> turning it off means basically turning it off permanently for kde4.4 ...
>> (unless people edit their oxygenrc file manually, which is not an option).
>>
>> On your suggestion to turn it off except when apps ask for it, this
>> requires either application changes (which are unlikely to happen), or
>> some sort of exception handling (similar to what we have in the window
>> decoration), which won't happen either for kde4.4 (and is likely not
>> desirable).
>>
>> So the only question I see today is: do we or do we not want to have
>> label animations (at all) in kde4.4.
>> Alternatively: keep the situation as it is now, and if people are
>> annoyed with animations, they can turn them _all_ off in oxygen
>> configuration.
>> Or are you suggesting to turn them _all_ off by default.
>>
>> I don't think we have any other option available at that stage.
>> (kde4.5 is another story).
>>
>>      
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