Re: Canada Can Thank Israel for Volunteering as Thought Police

On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 10:40:48AM -0600, Andreas Pour wrote:
> > OH MY GOD! The editor of a newspaper.. *EDITS*! To remove a extraneous line
> > (most news readers are not interested in people who have no opinion) no
> > less!
> 
> Which part of "censor" are you having a difficult time comprehending?  Perhaps
> you should flip through your English dictionary, b/c "censor" does not mean
> "editor".

Nor does it state that I should not make a distinction between voluntarily
censorship and mandated censorship.

> > Damn Jews! Gas them all, Dre!
> > 
> > (and give me some of the crack you're smoking, please)
> 
> While I presume that the above is sarcastic, I do not find it at all funny.  If
> you suspect that I am driven by hatred or racism toward people based on their
> ethnicity and/or religion, as opposed to condemning people based on their
> *conduct*, then you might ask some questions and we can have a dialogue about
> that.

Sorry, I lashed out, but yes, I have an indication of discrimination based
on religion here, hold on.

> And even though it seems you are trying to imply I am racist, I would point out
> that the way I see it you are simply expressing your own racism - namely, the
> fact that one Israeli censor (note, it was not said it was a Jewish censor) is
> known to be active on the Toronto Star reflects poorly on all Jews.  To be
> clear, it does not.  Indeed, I even noted that the original story was most
> likely written by a Jew, and I certainly did not take any issue with that story.

And how is that different from your remarks? One Canadian newspaper has an Israeli censor
and it somehow affects all of Canada? And assuming the Israeli censor to be
supportive of Zionism is indeed racism.

> One thing I would note further, too:  if the Toronot Star has censored an
> article on China by a "Chinese censor" or an article on North Korea by a "North
> Korean censor", I would have been just as outraged (though, admittedly, given
> the current international situation, far more surprised).  Would you have been
> just as flippant at my outrage?  If not, who is the one distinguishing bsaed on
> race?

If you were to state that Canada had submitted itself to the communist
lobby, yes.  In fact, the story is critical of the bulldozers and conduct,
so why would someone in support of Zionism (and thus likely to support the
bulldozers) delete a line that states "However, [AI] has no opinion on the
specific types of vehicles used." ?

> Your above comments are a dishonest cheap shot, and exactly the kind of method
> being used widely today throughout the world to stifle debate on the most
> important issues facing humanity.

> Unfortunately this method is not being used only by lame-brained posters to
> various newsgroups (and this includes not only people of your stripe but also
> those who are in fact anti-Jewish) but the problem is that it is being done by
> the power structures and to a very large extent in the media.  The censorship of
> the media which I noted in this thread is simply a small example of the efforts
> of the Jewish leadership, with which I do take a great deal of issue (just as I
> take a great deal of issue with the current US leadership, but I suppose in your
> simple world-view that makes me "anti-American", too).

Please back up that the censor is there on request, possibly forceful, of
the Zionist lobby. I'll lay down the sarcasm, but admit that going from
Israeli editor to Zionism was at best suggestive, or else I can't help
reading this stuff and thinking "oh him again".

Rob
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