Re: Getting Involved
Bridger Reed-Lewis <[email protected]> Sun, 15 Jun 2025 00:54:20 -0800
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--0000000000007360da0637986dec Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well idk =F0=9F=A4=B7 to be honest the most I can do is advocate and give suggestions. My goal is to install, and hopefully work with this community to improve accessibility. One thing I will be asking for is faster-whisper to be folks, and a setting button be added so it=E2=80=99s easier to instal= l. Because right now it=E2=80=99s a nightmare to even get setup. Outside of that, I still need to checkout all the text to speech software along with eye tracking, speech control stuff too. Because I think this should be just be a click away from installing compared to now where I feel like I need a damn degree in computer science to set it up. On Sun, Jun 15, 2025 at 00:33 Benson Muite <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 15, 2025, at 11:24 AM, Rob Whyte [Fudge] wrote: > > You could get someone to build a package that depends on all you > > separate packages and also makes system changes using gsettings. > > > > You can use packages to update configuration files also. > > > > Would this be a possible solution? > > > > > > Speak to someone on the KDE core team about packaging your changes. > > KDE applications are not directly packaged for Arch linux by KDE, but by > Arch > linux packagers. The Arch package repository does contain KDE packages: > https://archlinux.org/packages/ > > but faster-whisper seems like a candidate for AUR > https://aur.archlinux.org/ > and seems to already be there: > https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/python-faster-whisper > > If there are problems with integrating with KDE software, that would be > useful > to know. > > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > On 11/06/2025 8:09 am, Bridger Reed-Lewis wrote: > >> Because right now, it requires someone with the knowledge of the > >> terminal, along with access to chatgpt to troubleshoot. If not they > >> either have to know what they=E2=80=99re doing or rely on the communit= y to > >> help them. > >> > >> What I=E2=80=99m envisioning is something that built into the settings= very > >> similar to what Apple has, so I think in about 2 months I should have > >> a decent presentation and summary of what they can do. > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 13:59 Shervin Emami <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> That sounds like a great idea. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Shervin. > >> > >> On Wed, 11 June 2025, 5:35=E2=80=AFam Bridger Reed-Lewis, > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> I think my goal is to test these out, and meet with the board > >> along with the accessibility person they hired to recommend > >> some changes for the OS so that these things are more > >> integrated into the system so that those with disabilities can > >> just easily use these out of the box > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 03:46 Shervin Emami > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Oh ok, so Bridger was thinking that the functionality is > >> already integrated into the dedktop environment, whereas I > >> was thinking that Bridger is willing to implement the > >> integration into KDE. > >> > >> The speech recognition engines convert speech files to > >> text, they don't have any OS integration. But it's not > >> that hard to implement basic OS integration by getting > >> speech recognition to emulate pressing keys on a keyboard. > >> I hacked together my own basic scripts for doing that. You > >> could turn my script into something more convenient to use= : > >> > >> https://github.com/shervinemami/push-to-whisper > >> > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Shervin. > >> > >> On Mon, 9 June 2025, 8:37=E2=80=AFpm Bridger Reed-Lewis, > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> It=E2=80=99s installing right now, and no it=E2=80=99s= not a feature > >> yet from what I know. I=E2=80=99m going to see how acc= urate it > >> is though once I get back from work. From what I > >> understand though it runs this in a separate window > >> not with the os, which is what I=E2=80=99m looking for= similar > >> to what Apple and windows does it. > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 02:06 Benson Muite > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Jun 9, 2025, at 12:52 PM, Bridger > >> Reed-Lewis wrote: > >> > Hey so I set up what I could with a older laptop > >> but I was looking through > >> > our past conversations, and I wasn=E2=80=99t awa= re that > >> faster-whisper didn=E2=80=99t work > >> > within program, is there a effort to fix this? > >> > >> You would probably need to file a bug report, but > >> without more details it is unclear > >> where. For example, which program does it not > >> work with? Does it work with any > >> programs? Is this on Arch with KDE on Wayland? Do > >> other programs similar to > >> fast-whisper work? > >> > --0000000000007360da0637986dec Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto">Well idk =F0=9F=A4=B7 to be honest the most I can do is a= dvocate and give suggestions. My goal is to install, and hopefully work wit= h this community to improve accessibility. One thing I will be asking for i= s faster-whisper to be folks, and a setting button be added so it=E2=80=99s= easier to install. Because right now it=E2=80=99s a nightmare to even get = setup.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Outside of = that, I still need to checkout all the text to speech software along with e= ye tracking, speech control stuff too. Because I think this should be just = be a click away from installing compared to now where I feel like I need a = damn degree in computer science to set it up.=C2=A0</div><div><br><div clas= s=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_att= r">On Sun, Jun 15, 2025 at 00:33 Benson Muite <<a href=3D"mailto:benson_= [email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div><bl= ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef= t-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(= 204,204,204)"><br> <br> On Sun, Jun 15, 2025, at 11:24 AM, Rob Whyte [Fudge] wrote:<br> > You could get someone to build a package that depends on all you <br> > separate packages and also makes system changes using gsettings.<br> ><br> > You can use packages to update configuration files also.<br> ><br> > Would this be a possible solution?<br> ><br> ><br> > Speak to someone on the KDE core team about packaging your changes.<br= > <br> KDE applications are not directly packaged for Arch linux by KDE, but by Ar= ch<br> linux packagers.=C2=A0 The Arch package repository does contain KDE package= s:<br> <a href=3D"https://archlinux.org/packages/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_b= lank">https://archlinux.org/packages/</a><br> <br> but faster-whisper seems like a candidate for AUR<br> <a href=3D"https://aur.archlinux.org/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"= >https://aur.archlinux.org/</a><br> and seems to already be there:<br> <a href=3D"https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/python-faster-whisper" rel=3D= "noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/python-fa= ster-whisper</a><br> <br> If there are problems with integrating with KDE software, that would be use= ful<br> to know.<br> <br> ><br> ><br> > cheers<br> ><br> ><br> > On 11/06/2025 8:09 am, Bridger Reed-Lewis wrote:<br> >> Because right now, it requires someone with the knowledge of the <= br> >> terminal, along with access to chatgpt to troubleshoot. If not the= y <br> >> either have to know what they=E2=80=99re doing or rely on the comm= unity to <br> >> help them.<br> >><br> >> What I=E2=80=99m envisioning is something that built into the sett= ings very <br> >> similar to what Apple has, so I think in about 2 months I should h= ave <br> >> a decent presentation and summary of what they can do.<br> >><br> >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 13:59 Shervin Emami <<a href=3D"mailto:= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> = <br> >> wrote:<br> >><br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0That sounds like a great idea.<br> >><br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cheers,<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Shervin.<br> >><br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Wed, 11 June 2025, 5:35=E2=80=AFam Bridger R= eed-Lewis,<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= m" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> >><br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I think my goal is to test these = out, and meet with the board<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0along with the accessibility pers= on they hired to recommend<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0some changes for the OS so that t= hese things are more<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0integrated into the system so tha= t those with disabilities can<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0just easily use these out of the = box<br> >><br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 03:46 She= rvin Emami<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<<a href=3D"mailto:shervin.ema= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> >><br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Oh ok, so Bridger w= as thinking that the functionality is<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0already integrated = into the dedktop environment, whereas I<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0was thinking that B= ridger is willing to implement the<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0integration into KD= E.<br> >><br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The speech recognit= ion engines convert speech files to<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0text, they don'= t have any OS integration. But it's not<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0that hard to implem= ent basic OS integration by getting<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0speech recognition = to emulate pressing keys on a keyboard.<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I hacked together m= y own basic scripts for doing that. You<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0could turn my scrip= t into something more convenient to use:<br> >><br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://= github.com/shervinemami/push-to-whisper" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blan= k">https://github.com/shervinemami/push-to-whisper</a><br> >><br> >><br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cheers,<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Shervin.<br> >><br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Mon, 9 June 2025= , 8:37=E2=80=AFpm Bridger Reed-Lewis,<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<<a href=3D"mail= to:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]= </a>> wrote:<br> >><br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0It=E2= =80=99s installing right now, and no it=E2=80=99s not a feature<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0yet f= rom what I know. I=E2=80=99m going to see how accurate it<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0is th= ough once I get back from work. From what I<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0under= stand though it runs this in a separate window<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0not w= ith the os, which is what I=E2=80=99m looking for similar<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to wh= at Apple and windows does it.<br> >><br> >><br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Mo= n, Jun 9, 2025 at 02:06 Benson Muite<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<<= a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">benson_muite= @emailplus.org</a>> wrote:<br> >><br> >><br> >><br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0On Mon, Jun 9, 2025, at 12:52 PM, Bridger<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0Reed-Lewis wrote:<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0> Hey so I set up what I could with a older laptop<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0but I was looking through<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0> our past conversations, and I wasn=E2=80=99t aware that<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0faster-whisper didn=E2=80=99t work<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0> within program, is there a effort to fix this?<br> >><br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0You would probably need to file a bug report, but<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0without more details it is unclear<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0where.=C2=A0 For example, which program does it not<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0work with? Does it work with any<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0programs? Is this on Arch with KDE on Wayland? Do<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0other programs similar to<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0fast-whisper work?<br> >><br> </blockquote></div></div> --0000000000007360da0637986dec--