Re: Getting Involved

"Benson Muite" <[email protected]> Sun, 15 Jun 2025 13:22:45 +0300
Newsgroups gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Sun, Jun 15, 2025, at 11:54 AM, Bridger Reed-Lewis wrote:
> Well idk =F0=9F=A4=B7 to be honest the most I can do is advocate and g=
ive
> suggestions. My goal is to install, and hopefully work with this commu=
nity
> to improve accessibility. One thing I will be asking for is faster-whi=
sper
> to be folks, and a setting button be added so it=E2=80=99s easier to i=
nstall.
> Because right now it=E2=80=99s a nightmare to even get setup.

The drawback with being able to customize your operating system is havin=
g lots
of options - it takes some time to figure out which ones are suitable fo=
r you.  If you
will use Arch, get on their community channels, which are forums, irc an=
d mailing lists:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Getting_involved
Arch is a developer focused distribution - it allows you to do a lot, bu=
t also requires some
time investment to make changes yourself with community assistance.

Distributions such as:
https://zendalona.com/accessible-coconut/
are focused on accessibility.

There is an effort to develop KDE Linux:
https://community.kde.org/KDE_Linux

contact them in Matrix ( https://go.kde.org/matrix/#/%23kde-linux:kde.or=
g ) to see how
much accessibility support is currently available and what they would be=
 willing to add
in the near term.  It is fairly new, so may have things that prevent it =
from being usable
for you.

Not everyone who contributes to KDE uses KDE linux though.  As an exampl=
e, it would
be easier for me to contribute to Vojtux:
https://github.com/vojtapolasek/vojtux
=20

>
> Outside of that, I still need to checkout all the text to speech softw=
are
> along with eye tracking, speech control stuff too. Because I think this
> should be just be a click away from installing compared to now where I=
 feel
> like I need a damn degree in computer science to set it up.

Suggestions for KDE applications that can help with accessibility are we=
lcome. Debian has a list at:
https://blends.debian.org/accessibility/tasks/kde

Maybe this is something KDE should highlight at https://apps.kde.org/ an=
 accessibility category
is missing.

KDE did have a speech recognition application Simon:
https://apps.kde.org/simon/
but it is currently unmaintained.

If you expect to purchase again, and want dedicated support consider con=
tacting companies that
provide linux laptops, for example:
https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-t4-gnulinux-laptop
https://slimbook.com/en/
https://kfocus.org/spec/
https://manjaro.org/enterprise
https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/
https://system76.com/


Most of us who contribute do so as volunteers as time permits - we appre=
ciate the freedom
to change and improve things, but also need to prioritize with other thi=
ngs in life.

>
> On Sun, Jun 15, 2025 at 00:33 Benson Muite <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 15, 2025, at 11:24 AM, Rob Whyte [Fudge] wrote:
>> > You could get someone to build a package that depends on all you
>> > separate packages and also makes system changes using gsettings.
>> >
>> > You can use packages to update configuration files also.
>> >
>> > Would this be a possible solution?
>> >
>> >
>> > Speak to someone on the KDE core team about packaging your changes.
>>
>> KDE applications are not directly packaged for Arch linux by KDE, but=
 by
>> Arch
>> linux packagers.  The Arch package repository does contain KDE packag=
es:
>> https://archlinux.org/packages/
>>
>> but faster-whisper seems like a candidate for AUR
>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>> and seems to already be there:
>> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/python-faster-whisper
>>
>> If there are problems with integrating with KDE software, that would =
be
>> useful
>> to know.
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > cheers
>> >
>> >
>> > On 11/06/2025 8:09 am, Bridger Reed-Lewis wrote:
>> >> Because right now, it requires someone with the knowledge of the
>> >> terminal, along with access to chatgpt to troubleshoot. If not they
>> >> either have to know what they=E2=80=99re doing or rely on the comm=
unity to
>> >> help them.
>> >>
>> >> What I=E2=80=99m envisioning is something that built into the sett=
ings very
>> >> similar to what Apple has, so I think in about 2 months I should h=
ave
>> >> a decent presentation and summary of what they can do.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 13:59 Shervin Emami <[email protected]=
om>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>     That sounds like a great idea.
>> >>
>> >>     Cheers,
>> >>     Shervin.
>> >>
>> >>     On Wed, 11 June 2025, 5:35=E2=80=AFam Bridger Reed-Lewis,
>> >>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>         I think my goal is to test these out, and meet with the bo=
ard
>> >>         along with the accessibility person they hired to recommend
>> >>         some changes for the OS so that these things are more
>> >>         integrated into the system so that those with disabilities=
 can
>> >>         just easily use these out of the box
>> >>
>> >>         On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 03:46 Shervin Emami
>> >>         <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>             Oh ok, so Bridger was thinking that the functionality =
is
>> >>             already integrated into the dedktop environment, where=
as I
>> >>             was thinking that Bridger is willing to implement the
>> >>             integration into KDE.
>> >>
>> >>             The speech recognition engines convert speech files to
>> >>             text, they don't have any OS integration. But it's not
>> >>             that hard to implement basic OS integration by getting
>> >>             speech recognition to emulate pressing keys on a keybo=
ard.
>> >>             I hacked together my own basic scripts for doing that.=
 You
>> >>             could turn my script into something more convenient to=
 use:
>> >>
>> >>             https://github.com/shervinemami/push-to-whisper
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>             Cheers,
>> >>             Shervin.
>> >>
>> >>             On Mon, 9 June 2025, 8:37=E2=80=AFpm Bridger Reed-Lewi=
s,
>> >>             <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>                 It=E2=80=99s installing right now, and no it=E2=80=
=99s not a feature
>> >>                 yet from what I know. I=E2=80=99m going to see how=
 accurate it
>> >>                 is though once I get back from work. From what I
>> >>                 understand though it runs this in a separate window
>> >>                 not with the os, which is what I=E2=80=99m looking=
 for similar
>> >>                 to what Apple and windows does it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>                 On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 02:06 Benson Muite
>> >>                 <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>                     On Mon, Jun 9, 2025, at 12:52 PM, Bridger
>> >>                     Reed-Lewis wrote:
>> >>                     > Hey so I set up what I could with a older la=
ptop
>> >>                     but I was looking through
>> >>                     > our past conversations, and I wasn=E2=80=99t=
 aware that
>> >>                     faster-whisper didn=E2=80=99t work
>> >>                     > within program, is there a effort to fix thi=
s?
>> >>
>> >>                     You would probably need to file a bug report, =
but
>> >>                     without more details it is unclear
>> >>                     where.  For example, which program does it not
>> >>                     work with? Does it work with any
>> >>                     programs? Is this on Arch with KDE on Wayland?=
 Do
>> >>                     other programs similar to
>> >>                     fast-whisper work?
>> >>
>>