Re: Science

+1 for inviting the RKWard team to KDE

-1 for splitting KDE EDU.
As the boundaries between apps for school and for science (the math
and chemistry apps come to my mind) and the feedback from the KDE EDU
team I am against the split into two teams. But I think we could
improve the marketing to a user perspective. One of my main points
from the Release Party yesterday is, that (new) users want to know how
KDE Software can solve their problems.
Since several weeks the idea of "KDE 4 everyone" / "KDE @ ..." is
bugging me. I wanted to come up with a workable alpha version, but I
don't have the time at the moment.

So here is the idea:
The plan is to analyze the main challenges for a certain market group
(e.g. schools or universities) and offer solutions how they could
solve their tasks with KDE Software and other software, incl.
providing some external links.

In education you need the KDE EDU apps as well as a workspace and
other programs like a writer or image manipulation programs or what
ever. The application oriented presentation (developer perspective)
has limitations here (you can't put krita or kword into KDE EDU).

See my first draft for "KDE4schools" / "KDE@schools" here:
http://community.kde.org/User:Ungethym/KDE4Schools

So, what do you think about it?

(Sorry, I'd really like to come up with an worked out example. But
there is so much to do at the moment.)

2010/8/18 Stephanie Das Gupta <[email protected]>:
> Jos Poortvliet wrote:
>
> On Tuesday 17 August 2010 14:45:03 Stuart Jarvis wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>
>>
>
>> This is not purely a promo thing, but I would like the benefit of your
>> wisdom,
>
>> experience, incisive intellect and so on... Enough flattery? ;-)
>
>>
>
>> Anyway, a few of us got together at Akademy and discussed how to raise the
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>> profile of KDE science apps. One idea was to have a page under
>> 'Applications'
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>> on kde.org (so this would be at http://www.kde.org/applications/science).
>
>>
>
>> It would include the KDE Edu science apps, but also various outside apps -
>
>> RKWard, Kile, LabPlot. well we gathered quite a list. The idea is to make
>> it
>
>> easier to see what we have - currently the best match is to look in
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>> Applications -> Education but that excludes the three above, and contains
>> a
>
>> lot of noise from a science perspective (KHangman...).
>
>>
>
>> This is purely a presentation thing - there is no intention to remove
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>> duplicate apps from the Edu page or to create a separate Science module.
>> The
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>> majority of apps listed would probably be non-SC in any case.
>
>>
>
>> So: Good? Bad? Don't care?
>
>>
>
>> If the response is fairly positive then I'll run this past KDE Edu
>> (already
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>> discussed a bit - as a purely presentation thing they seem mostly not too
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>> bothered either way) and KDE www of course.
>
> When it comes to the homepage, this makes sense. However, it wouldn't be a
> completely bad idea to see if the edu team can split what it does in two -
> the science and the edu part or something. I'm not advocating to actually
> split the team but at least the products and the webpage. Just going a
> little further than you proposed... Which I also support, btw.
>
> In either case, it might also be valuable to ask the authors of RKWard et
> all to join kde-edu ;-)
>
> When did the science programs and the rest kde-edu programs become 2
> separate identities? If you make separate pages for the science then
> wouldn't it make sense to also make individual pages for math, vocab, etc??
>
>> Cheers,
>
>> Stu
>
>>
>
>> PS: There's also a new area on the KDE forums and a bit of a push to try
>> and
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>> get some interviews etc on the Dot. If you're interested please get
>> yourself
>
>> onto the kde-science mailing list:
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>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-science
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>>
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