Re: Do we release SC or not?

On Thursday 02 September 2010 13:06:15 Bart Otten wrote:
> 2010/9/2 Stuart Jarvis <[email protected]>
> 
> > On Wednesday 01 September 2010 22:35:01 Arthur Schiwon wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > > 
> > > On Tuesday 31 August 2010 20:27:59 Troy Unrau wrote:
> > > > Hi, it's Troy here, aka the branding police...
> > > > 
> > > > SC was never intended to be an externally marketed term. It was
> > > > supposed to be something we can use to refer to the 'bunch of stuff
> > > > that has in common this release engineering artifact where they
> > > > happen to be simultaneously released'. What happened was that people
> > > > simply read this as 'where-ever you see KDE, write KDE SC' - failure
> > > > on our part.
> > > 
> > > Please correct me, but the paragraph "The KDE Software Compilation" in
> > 
> > the
> > 
> > > rebranding announcement
> > > (http://dot.kde.org/2009/11/24/repositioning-kde-brand) said:
> > > 
> > > »The KDE community does regular releases of a core set of KDE software
> > > products. These releases are called the KDE Software Compilation and
> > 
> > tagged
> > 
> > > with a version number, e.g. "The KDE community is releasing KDE
> > > Software Compilation 4.4". «
> > 
> > Ok:
> > - "core set of KDE software products" - i.e. more than one, in fact they
> > were
> > listed in the section above in the article
> > - "these releases are called the KDE Software Compilation" - also true,
> > if you
> > need a word for the whole lot
> > 
> > The original intention (clear from the original proposal and also in the
> > meeting where we fleshed all this out - but, it seems, not from the
> > article)
> > was to emphasise the products. But we recognised there *are* times when a
> > group term (SC) is needed. Unfortunately, we didn't follow through the
> > logic
> > with the 4.4 releases and used SC in our announcement titles - although
> > the announcement text did emphasise the products. For the 4.5 release
> > day, we did
> > separate announcements for each product group. For 4.5.1 we reverted
> > (incorrectly) to the old formulation for the title.
> > 
> > > To me it sounds like the term Software Compilation (or simply SC)
> > > should
> > 
> > be
> > 
> > > used in announcements and it is also the reason why we at
> > > kubuntu-de.org also used SC from then on in our news articles.
> > 
> > And no doubt followed what we were doing upstream using SC in the
> > announcement
> > titles...
> > 
> > Taking your 4.5 announcement, I reckon these are ok:
> > 
> > Kubuntu packages available for KDE's 4.5 releases
> > Plasma Workspaces and KDE Applications 4.5 packaged for Kubuntu
> > 
> > (I don't think you need to mention the Platform - do most of your readers
> > care?)
> > 
> > Or you could stick with your current formulation of referring to SC. It's
> > technically correct and doesn't bother me particularly as long as the
> > text explains that there are packages for the Plasma Workspaces,
> > Applications and
> > (if you like) Platform. I guess most Kubuntu users go mostly for KDE
> > software
> > anyway, so the everything together (SC) formulation is ok for them. What
> > would
> > be nice would be to get Ubuntu (i.e. GNOME focussed) press reporting the
> > release of KDE Applications 4.5 - their users aren't going to care about
> > the
> > Plasma Desktop 4.5 but there are probably some KDE Applications they
> > could use: Marble for example.
> > 
> > Stu
> > 
> >> What would be nice would be to get Ubuntu (i.e. GNOME focussed) press
> 
> reporting the
> 
> >> release of KDE Applications 4.5
> 
> KDE Apps can be used on Windows. So I have sent an email to Microsoft and
> they are considering our idea of posting KDE-news on their website. ;-)

KDE apps for Windows being covered in Windows-centric computer magazines? I 
want to see that happening when the Windows ports are more mature.
 
> Could we start releasing Plasma + Applications AND Platform seperated? That
> way the workload is more spread and we are in the news every 2,5 month ;-)

We could, yes. But I think the consensus is that the benefits are outweighed by 
the costs, for the moment at least.

(Yes, I know you were just taking the piss, but if you replace 'Microsoft' 
with $windowsmag then I don't actually find the suggestions silly)

Stu
 
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