Re: Do we release SC or not?

On Saturday 04 September 2010 12:29:49 Arthur Schiwon wrote:
> On Thursday 02 September 2010 12:59:38 Stuart Jarvis wrote:
> > On Wednesday 01 September 2010 22:35:01 Arthur Schiwon wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > > 
> > > On Tuesday 31 August 2010 20:27:59 Troy Unrau wrote:
> > > > Hi, it's Troy here, aka the branding police...
> > > > 
> > > > SC was never intended to be an externally marketed term. It was
> > > > supposed to be something we can use to refer to the 'bunch of stuff
> > > > that has in common this release engineering artifact where they
> > > > happen to be simultaneously released'. What happened was that people
> > > > simply read this as 'where-ever you see KDE, write KDE SC' - failure
> > > > on our part.
> > > 
> > > Please correct me, but the paragraph "The KDE Software Compilation" in
> > > the rebranding announcement
> > > (http://dot.kde.org/2009/11/24/repositioning-kde-brand) said:
> > > 
> > > »The KDE community does regular releases of a core set of KDE software
> > > products. These releases are called the KDE Software Compilation and
> > > tagged with a version number, e.g. "The KDE community is releasing KDE
> > > Software Compilation 4.4". «
> > 
> > Ok:
> > - "core set of KDE software products" - i.e. more than one, in fact they
> > were listed in the section above in the article
> > - "these releases are called the KDE Software Compilation" - also true,
> > if you need a word for the whole lot
> > 
> > The original intention (clear from the original proposal and also in the
> > meeting where we fleshed all this out - but, it seems, not from the
> > article) was to emphasise the products. But we recognised there *are*
> > times when a group term (SC) is needed. Unfortunately, we didn't follow
> > through the logic with the 4.4 releases and used SC in our announcement
> > titles - although the announcement text did emphasise the products. For
> > the 4.5 release day, we did separate announcements for each product
> > group. For 4.5.1 we reverted (incorrectly) to the old formulation for
> > the title.
> 
> The thing is, not everyone out there is reading this mailing list or taking
> part in meetings.

Sure. Hence the dot article that listed the products and also introduced SC. 
Even looking back at that I don't understand the ambiguity, but of course I 
have a biased point of view as I know what we were trying to say. Clearly w 
didn't communicate it well enough.

> When you announce it eventually, the content should be
> clear and correct. A QA thing, I guess.

Yep

> > Taking your 4.5 announcement, I reckon these are ok:
> Actually I meant the German community (thanks for that feedback anyway),
> example headline:

Yeah, I did look at kubuntu-de :-) My suggestions were intended as 
alternatives to the below, but unfortunately my German isn't good enough to 
write them in German
> 
> - KDE SC 4.5 mit Kubuntu Paketen erschienen
> 
> without mentioning Plasma Workspace ord KDE Applications. Of course, we're
> going to adjust this in future...

Cool

Cheers,
Stu
 
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