Re: KDE presentation

On Wednesday 17 November 2010 04:06:54 Justin Kirby wrote:
> 2010/11/16 Кирил Владимиров <[email protected]>
> > Stuart, you weren't so close... I'm from Bulgaria ;)

Wow, I wasn't close at all was I? Shows how much I know... (I tend to think 
Russian whenever I see Cyrillic text, even though I know that's about as valid 
as thinking 'Ubuntu' whenever anyone says 'Linux')

> > There is a yearly open conference called OpenFest. This year, the
> > organizers had a lack of lecturers and they've put an open form for
> > everyone who wants to make a lecture on anything, connected with Open
> > Source.

Ah, ok. Well that's good news for us anyway

> > Then I, as a fan of KDE a little before 4.0 final(don't know how it
> > happened...I've really hated kde 3), filled out this form and decided
> > to talk about KDE. And...little less than a week I received an
> > approval. So this is it. Sadly I'm not a KDE contributor, even that I
> > want to be, but still just trying to make something useful with c++
> > and qt.
> 
> Lies!  You are indeed a KDE contributor if you're out there promoting KDE
> and giving a talk to people about how great it is :-)

Yep, I was just going to say that some of us like to think you can contribute 
without being a coder :-)

> Should you decide that you would enjoy helping out with these types of
> things more often I'd highly encourage you to join this mailing list and
> keep an eye out for opportunities to contribute via KDE Promo in the
> future.  We need help quite regularly...and don't hesitate to tell people
> that in your talk.  There are lots of other non-coding ways to contribute
> as well like bug reporting, bug triage (cleaning out duplicates, junk
> reports, etc), documentation, translation, and many other things.  All
> these things make developers' lives much easier and they really appreciate
> the help so that they can focus on coding.

+1. And if you have time after the event then I think it would be interesting 
to have a Dot article about the event, perhaps similar to:
http://dot.kde.org/2010/11/10/kde-attends-relaunched-solisc-event-brazil

Cheers,
Stu

> -Justin
> 
> > Thanks about Promo/Talking points...I've almost forgot plasma-netbook.
> > Will mention it, then in the demo time I'm going show a little tweaks
> > with it(great is that it could be added as different activity). I've
> > almost forgot KWallet, too. Since I'm using it even for my Firefox
> > password, that was going to be a shame. Also I'm planning to play a
> > little with krunner(application, widget browser, task killer
> > calculator and unit converter), lancelot and shelf stuff,
> > networkmanager's plasmoid, the ability to place objects directly over
> > unlocked widgets from browsers(notes, thumbs), application launchers,
> > widgets, activities and useful kwin effects like desktop grid,
> > transparency and stuff.
> > 
> > Damien, thanks about the promo note with upcoming features. I have a
> > question...is there a modules/apps that were completely rewritten, not
> > just ported to Qt4 and improved, by the time "kde 3.5 to kde 4" and
> > after it?
> > 
> > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:59, Stuart Jarvis <[email protected]>
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 16, 2010 01:38:59 am Damien Tardy-Panis wrote:
> > >> Hi Kiril,
> > >> 
> > >> I don't know if someone already replied to you off-list but as I
> > >> didn't want your request to be left unanswered, here I am ;-)
> > > 
> > > Replying was just next on my list of things to do (sorry for the delay
> > > -
> > 
> > I was
> > 
> > > away without internet access for the last few days).
> > > 
> > >> About the list of upcoming features for KDE 4.6 : that list is under
> > >> construction (as you can see here https://promo.notes.kde.org/38). And
> > 
> > I
> > 
> > >> think that by your talk (in 10 days) it won't be much more advanced.
> > >> So
> > 
> > I
> > 
> > >> guess the list you made will be more accurate. I suggest that you can
> > 
> > show
> > 
> > >> us your list so that we can tell you if something important is missing
> > 
> > (by
> > 
> > >> the way, this list might even help us). But if you are good Planet
> > 
> > reader,
> > 
> > >> you must have missed nothing.
> > >> 
> > >> About the template, I can also suggest you to use the generic KDE
> > 
> > template
> > 
> > >> I made for the KPresenter contest (
> > 
> > http://www.koffice.org/static/kpresenter/template_contest_2010/templates/
> > kd
> > 
> > >> e_events.otp). Ok that could be called "self promotion" :-D but this
> > >> is just a suggestion.
> > >> 
> > >> And about the content of the presentation itself... Well, personnally
> > 
> > I'm
> > 
> > >> not used to do such a talk for now. But your plan seems nice to me.
> > >> It's always difficult to judge without knowing more precisely the
> > >> audience
> > 
> > and
> > 
> > >> the context of the talk. However from what you have written it seems
> > >> ok.
> > > 
> > > I agree, your plan looks good. A couple of things you might want to
> > > think about is demoing both Plasma Desktop and Plasma Netbook and
> > > maybe talk
> > 
> > about
> > 
> > > the fact that we have some mobile applications (and a Plasma Mobile
> > 
> > workspace)
> > 
> > > being developed.
> > > 
> > > You might also look at http://community.kde.org/Promo/Talking_Points
> > > for
> > 
> > some
> > 
> > > ideas (these are various things that KDE people have picked out that
> > > seem
> > 
> > to
> > 
> > > impress).
> > > 
> > >> If you have more precise questions, just ask, I will try to answer if
> > 
> > they
> > 
> > >> are within the limits of my skills...I'm quite new here so I might not
> > 
> > have
> > 
> > >> all the answers you need, sorry.
> > > 
> > > I was just going to add that it doesn't really seem like it matters
> > > that
> > 
> > I was
> > 
> > > away as Damien has given you an excellent answer and some pointers :-)
> > > 
> > > There is one more thing though - can I ask *you* a few questions?
> > > 
> > > Given your name and the alphabet it shows up in (as who the email is
> > 
> > from) I'm
> > 
> > > thinking you may be from Russia or another Russian speaking country. Of
> > > course, I could be wrong - I had only one year of learning Russian and
> > 
> > that
> > 
> > > was about 14 years ago...
> > > 
> > > We would be interested to know where you are from, how you got involved
> > 
> > in
> > 
> > > promoting KDE, how things are for KDE where you live, how we (as in the
> > 
> > people
> > 
> > > on kde-promo) can help you and how you can help us. If you will be
> > 
> > presenting
> > 
> > > at a conference or exhibition it and would be willing to write
> > > something
> > 
> > about
> > 
> > > it then it could be very interesting to feature that as a story on the
> > 
> > Dot
> > 
> > > (dot.kde.org).
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Stu
> > 
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