Re: Someone please fix the 4.6 announcement

Carl Symons <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.kde.events
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Sebastian Kügler <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 29, 2010 01:57:21 Markus Slopianka wrote:
>> Gosh, removing that f*cking "KDE 4.6.0" was really urgent at that time --
>> before too many  people read that announcement.
>> Now it's too late.
>>
>> Really, it's bad enough that our own guys still spread that pre-rebranding
>> wording over  Planet KDE but when our own release announcements still
>> carry the same old crap over and over again, how are we supposed to get
>> the rebranding message to the people even over one year after it was
>> done?!?
>
> You know, being the person who does most of the work, I'm getting sick of
> people accusing me of screwing up release announcements. To a point where it's
> easier for me to just ignore it, altogether. That's not what happened, but
> what's becoming more and more likely, thanks to emails like this.
>
> Being friendly and patient would go a long way not making things worse.

The people who appreciate what you do (myself included) are not as
vocal with praise as the ones who have issues.

>
>> Why wasn't the announcement not put up on EtherPad before release anyway?
>
> We never did this for minor releases, as we're simply lacking manpower.
>
> If you're in to it, feel free to put up proposed texts for upcoming releases
> on Etherpad, or better yet: Work on the 4.6.0 one, that badly needs attention
> which I will be unlikely to give.
>
>> And quite frankly: The community already decided that the term "Software
>> Compilation"  should not be advertised to the general public. So do you
>> have any veto rights? If not, please accept the decision. If yes: Why?
>
> Because I do the work? It's not about veto rights, it's about practicalities
> when writing an announcement. If you think something's not good, don't just
> propose a "change everything to this"-patch (we had these before, making
> things worse. Do explain what exactly and why you want things changed. Some
> changes might make sense, but your patch made it hard to distinguish those
> from more gratuitious ones.
>
>> I also explained in my mail from last Friday what I changed.
>> Read the thread first before accusing me of things.
>>
>> So either someone please commit the change or raise my Karma and I commit
>> it myself.
>
> I didn't commit it for the following reasons:
>
> - your patch is hard to review
> - I don't agree with some of the changes you made
>
> <This was the *friendly* version of this email.>
> --
> sebas
>

I also tried to get what the suggestions were and saw only one minor
thing. The diff file provided little information, and that in a format
that was difficult to work with. In addition, by the time the changes
were suggested, the article headline was already published...poor form
to change that after publishing.

There is clearly fervor and commitment behind the original message.
However, it would probably be a good idea to just omit words that
otherwise require ***.

Carl
 
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