Re: Releases in three months?

Àlex Fiestas <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.kde.events
Message-ID <1393985.z8zru5Fi39__28029.0360017263$1373469844$gmane$org@monsterbad>
On Tuesday 09 July 2013 14:40:22 Sebastian Gruener wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 9. Juli 2013, 09:31:42 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
> > On Tuesday 09 July 2013 07:56:25 Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:38 AM, Àlex Fiestas <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Hi there, how is the promo team doing?
> > > > 
> > > > Today I've sent a proposal to kde-core-devel about  making a release
> > > > every
> > > > 3 months. While developers discuss on that list whether it works for
> > > > them
> > > > or not I'd like to ask you separately your PoV on the matter.
> > > > 
> > > > It has been brought by Nuno in the kcd thread that kde-promo won't be
> > > > able
> > > > to make a good job if we switch to a 3 month release cycle, so I want
> > > > to
> > > > ask you what things (if any) we can do to make it happen.
> > > > 
> > > > This is the thread I'm talking about:
> > > > http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=137331442528841&w=2
> > > > 
> > > > You can find original reply from Nuno here:
> > > > http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=137331586706259&w=2
> > > > 
> > > > So, what can we do to make a 3 month release work?
> > > 
> > > Getting the release promotion done for 6-month releases is already
> > > challenging. I don't think 3-month is currently doable without
> > > considerably more help.
> > 
> > It depends. Our limiting factor is, and always has been: getting a good
> > idea of what's new.
> > 
> > Right now, that is a major pain in the ass. While there is the Features
> > wikipage it rarely is complete (and IF it mentions a feature tells us
> > little about it) and we're forced to go over commit digests and personal
> > blogs to have a more complete picture.
> > 
> > If we could improve this somehow, say, developers would commit to having
> > at
> > least significant features mentioned there so that we can rely on it; we
> > can do a lot better, a lot faster.
> 
> i totally agree with this. from my personal opinion (editor for a german
> news-site) it is really hard to collect all the necessary information, e.g
> new and important features.
> 
> as of now the wiki lists some but not all features. and it is not always up
> to date, so some features might be listed but not implemented/included in
> the release.
> 
> and as jos noted, even if a feature is listed, there is almost no
> explaination. so i end up with googling the feature and/or developer in the
> hope of finding an explainatory blog-entry. or i just startup the app in
> question and search for the new feature.
> 
> thats not efficient.
> 
> so, to sum up. if you really want this, you need to help promo by providing
> far more info,

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I'm confident we can have a list of added features, that should be easy... 
Having more info about them besides the optional blogging will be difficult.

At least we can have the first thing done, and generate an awesome list of 
added features.

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