Re: Questions regarding dot and planet

On May 16, 2015 4:12 PM, "Valorie Zimmerman" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:43 AM, James Cain <[email protected]>
wrote:
> > On Friday, May 01, 2015 01:39:55 PM Harold Schreckengost wrote:
> >
> >> We have an audience who is in between "my computer has a cup holder!"
and
> >
> >> "I like having the bleeding edge." That's really who I'm aiming for.
> >
> > +1. There needs to be a focus on providing News (Relevant Community and
> > Official) and Commentary that is aimed at the semi-technical,
> > tech-enthusiast crowd. Ideally, this would contain both original
content as
> > well as highlights from all of our various front-facing media: Planet,
.Dot,
> > G+, Youtube channel, etc. That's sort of what I was trying to do with
> > http://thebluemint.blogspot.com, although that obviously hasn't been
updated
> > in a while.
> >
> Sure. What that takes is a small team of people to take charge and
> keep it fresh and relevant. So perhaps those who are discussing here
> could step up and volunteer to do this.

I could help. I've done a reasonable amount of editing and writing in a
"professional" capacity. I'd also be interested in helping to formulate a
plan going forward.
>
> >> >>> On Thursday 30 April 2015 22:09:46 Harold Schreckengost wrote:
> >
> >> >>> > Do we have anything that is intended for regular users, rather
than
> >> >>> > the
> >> >>> > technical-minded? If so, where can I find it? If not, is there
any
> >> >>> > particular reason?
>
> I'd just like to throw in the fact that most people who try Linux, are
> usually somewhat technically-minded, or have a support person who is.
> Usually those who use KDE on WinMac are techies as well. So I believe
> our "regular users" are techies.

When I started using Linux, I was technical minded, but commit digests and
things like that were of no real interest to me unless I was looking to see
if a big bug was fixed. There are gradations of technical prowess and
interest.  If we find the right balance between technical prowess and
keeping it simple enough that most interested people can understand it
relatively easily, it could be very helpful from a number of different
standpoints.
>
> > Since no one has mentioned this in this thread yet, I would like to
throw
> > out there that a possible outlet for this type of communication may
already
> > exist in Userbase. On Userbase's landing page it says "Userbase.kde.org
is
> > the home for KDE users and enthusiasts." So it would appear that we
have our
> > potential outlet medium already defined for us.
> >
> > Userbase in it's current state is stagnant and boring. And I would say
> > evidence of this is the fact that no one has even mentioned it.
Couldn't we
> > make a case, or at least initiate a discussion, for making it a bit more
> > relevant? And while we're in the mood to possibly shake things up a
bit, the
> > Community and Userbase wiki's could potentially be combined into one
dynamic
> > (read: non-stagnant) web presence, serving to (among other things)
engage
> > the community, educate on KDE applications, provide an aggregated
> > (non-techie) news source, and elicit potential contributors. By "News"
I do
> > not mean just provide a Planet widget on the main page, but as mentioned
> > earlier provide news from more of a user/fan perspective.
>
> Userbase afaik is for user facing documentation. For instance, when we
> wrote the Amarok User Manual, that's where we wrote it, and where we
> keep it updated. There is a plugin that allows for translations, and a
> script that pulls all of that when it's time to roll the next release.
>
> Not all teams use it like this, but it is for user-facing information.
> Not boring when you are trying to figure out how to make best use of
> your playlists, for instance! Nor stagnant, at least in the case of
> Amarok.
>
> If teams have stagnant pages there, then indeed they should be updated.
>
> I would not like to see Community and Userbase intermixed without a
> mighty good plan. The Community wiki is really useful, and I would not
> like to see those pages mixed into Userbase. I use it all the time in
> Student Programs, such as SoK, GCi, and GSoC. Plus we use it for
> organizing sprints, for Akademy, and other meetings.
>
> So for nows, the Community wiki sounds useful when there needs to be
> interaction rather than just broadcast of information.
>
> > In essence we have the Dot, which is pretty good in it's current state -
> > essentially an official news outlet with relevant content well
positioned on
> > the landing page. We have Planet, with relevant developer news and
> > commentary. What's evidently lacking is a user /fan-only site that
informs,
> > entertains, educates, and motivates our Users. I have several ideas on
how
> > we could make this happen should anyone find my opinions worth
pondering.
>
> We encourage all active KDE community members to connect their blogs
> to the Planet, and properly tag KDE-relevant posts.
>

My concern with Planet is that, from the first page, it's all even more
technical than Dot is. There is nothing wrong with this, but if we want
regular users to contribute to it, and to consume the content, we might
want to find some way to present the regular users (whoever that might be)
with content more in line with their level and interests.  Some of the
content I see is really good, but the wrong great content is still the
wrong content.

> Valorie
>
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