Re: KDE Neon and how to handle this?

On Thu, 11 Feb 2016, Bryan Lunduke wrote:

> No.  That's criticism.  Criticism is cool.  I disagree with you, but
> you're totally entitled to your opinion.  :)  (SUSE hired me knowing
> full well who I am and what I do.  They've never censored me.  That's
> one of the great things about, not just SUSE, but many in the FOSS
> world.)
>
> Ad hominem and person attacks?  Not great.  Those sorts of attacks
> should be dealt with swiftly and publicly in order to keep bad
> backlash from occurring.

Well, so should dumb and knee-jerk articles with out-of-order headlines
be dealt with: swiftly, and at the knees. You should not have written this
shit. Now, of course, the question is, why did you write it? I guess it's
simply stupid fear. Suse has been left behind. Gnome has, of course, its
own pet distribution, Fedora. Unity has its own, Ubuntu. Suse has vacillated
and dropped the ball. It never cared for anybody in particular, and now
nobody cares for suse. And when Canonical kicked out Kubuntu, the team, who 
have always been KDE community members, decided to strike out on their own. 
And Suse is, once again, left out in the cold, because you guys were
vacillating when you needed to be decisive. To be extremely impolitic, you've
turned yourselves into the spinsters or perennial bachelors of the Linux world.
Too afraid too choose, you're now to old to have anything to chose between.

And now you're pissed, and you write dumb screeds and you're pissed when 
people take the piss; I don't envy you.

But not to worry; as has been clear from the start, KDE is a project that
transcends your worries. You want Suse to become an "official" KDE project,
just like gcompris, krita, neon or amarok: join up and become one. You're
welcome.


>
> -Bryan
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Boudewijn Rempt <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2016, Bryan Lunduke wrote:
>>
>>> Let me start by saying that I am a *huge* fan of KDE.  I've been an
>>> incredibly vocal supporter and advocate for many years -- and plan to
>>> continue to be well into the future.
>>>
>>> That said, I was confused and disappointed by the way the KDE Neon
>>> announcement occurred.  Causing me to write the following article:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.networkworld.com/article/3032063/opensource-subnet/kdes-new-linux-distro-terrible-idea-or-simply-a-huge-mistake.html
>>>
>>> The response from the likes of Jonathan Riddell (and a small number of
>>> others) was nothing short of... terrible.  Personal, ad hominen
>>> attacks that just make KDE look terrible.
>>
>>
>> Maybe the "social marketing manager for suse" shouldn't have written
>> an article with as inflammatory a title as that one? Was that a really
>> smart, savvy move? I've been a suse user and fan for over a decade...
>> But you're making me wonder why.
>>
>> Of course you'll assume that me saying that is a personal attack as
>> well, I don't doubt that...
>>
>> In any case, as far as I am concerned, the relation between Neon and
>> KDE is the same as between my project and KDE: both are KDE projects.
>> Some people don't like that, but tant pis.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Boudewijn Rempt | http://www.krita.org, http://www.valdyas.org
>>
>>
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