Re: KDE Neon and how to handle this?

Huh.  Now *this* was rude, combative, inaccurate and not at all helpful.

Just to be clear: I am not representing SUSE here.  I am representing
myself and am here, in this list, because I care about KDE.  Otherwise
I would not be.

-Bryan

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Boudewijn Rempt <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2016, Bryan Lunduke wrote:
>
>> No.  That's criticism.  Criticism is cool.  I disagree with you, but
>> you're totally entitled to your opinion.  :)  (SUSE hired me knowing
>> full well who I am and what I do.  They've never censored me.  That's
>> one of the great things about, not just SUSE, but many in the FOSS
>> world.)
>>
>> Ad hominem and person attacks?  Not great.  Those sorts of attacks
>> should be dealt with swiftly and publicly in order to keep bad
>> backlash from occurring.
>
>
> Well, so should dumb and knee-jerk articles with out-of-order headlines
> be dealt with: swiftly, and at the knees. You should not have written this
> shit. Now, of course, the question is, why did you write it? I guess it's
> simply stupid fear. Suse has been left behind. Gnome has, of course, its
> own pet distribution, Fedora. Unity has its own, Ubuntu. Suse has vacillated
> and dropped the ball. It never cared for anybody in particular, and now
> nobody cares for suse. And when Canonical kicked out Kubuntu, the team, who
> have always been KDE community members, decided to strike out on their own.
> And Suse is, once again, left out in the cold, because you guys were
> vacillating when you needed to be decisive. To be extremely impolitic,
> you've
> turned yourselves into the spinsters or perennial bachelors of the Linux
> world.
> Too afraid too choose, you're now to old to have anything to chose between.
>
> And now you're pissed, and you write dumb screeds and you're pissed when
> people take the piss; I don't envy you.
>
> But not to worry; as has been clear from the start, KDE is a project that
> transcends your worries. You want Suse to become an "official" KDE project,
> just like gcompris, krita, neon or amarok: join up and become one. You're
> welcome.
>
>
>
>>
>> -Bryan
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Boudewijn Rempt <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2016, Bryan Lunduke wrote:
>>>
>>>> Let me start by saying that I am a *huge* fan of KDE.  I've been an
>>>> incredibly vocal supporter and advocate for many years -- and plan to
>>>> continue to be well into the future.
>>>>
>>>> That said, I was confused and disappointed by the way the KDE Neon
>>>> announcement occurred.  Causing me to write the following article:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.networkworld.com/article/3032063/opensource-subnet/kdes-new-linux-distro-terrible-idea-or-simply-a-huge-mistake.html
>>>>
>>>> The response from the likes of Jonathan Riddell (and a small number of
>>>> others) was nothing short of... terrible.  Personal, ad hominen
>>>> attacks that just make KDE look terrible.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe the "social marketing manager for suse" shouldn't have written
>>> an article with as inflammatory a title as that one? Was that a really
>>> smart, savvy move? I've been a suse user and fan for over a decade...
>>> But you're making me wonder why.
>>>
>>> Of course you'll assume that me saying that is a personal attack as
>>> well, I don't doubt that...
>>>
>>> In any case, as far as I am concerned, the relation between Neon and
>>> KDE is the same as between my project and KDE: both are KDE projects.
>>> Some people don't like that, but tant pis.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Boudewijn Rempt | http://www.krita.org, http://www.valdyas.org
>>>
>>>
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