Re: New Long Term Goal

On sábado, 9 de marzo de 2019 11:22:54 (CET) Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 7:04 PM Paul Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On viernes, 8 de marzo de 2019 16:57:42 (CET) Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> > Hello Lydia,
> > 
> > > That sounds good! Given that it has implications way beyond promo
> > 
> > Okay, but we are approaching it only from the angle of what Promo can do
> > to
> > facilitate this. That is, "selling" KDE to other organisations to convince
> > them to join us and then facilitating the communication between those
> > organisations and the groups within KDE to make whatever has to happen
> > (organise joint sprints, join the Advisory Board, etc.) happen.
> 
> Yeah. But isn't it better to get their buy-in before putting in the
> work?

Oh yes.

> Imagine for example promo puts work into building a relationship
> with a partner, convince them to join the advisory board just to then
> be told by the board that isn't going to happen for this partner.

I failed to explain myself correctly. Of course we would have to have the 
e.V., the onboarding group, or whichever group would be affected be a concrete 
action. The difference is that we were thinking of tackling things on a case-
to-case basis.

Say we were thinking that getting Mozilla into the Advisory Board was a good 
idea, first we would figure out what would be necessary to do that working with 
the parties within KDE that would be affected by that decision, before even 
considering talking to Mozilla.

So, yeah, we are on the same page about this, except we (promo) were not 
thinking of this to be so important as to merit it being a community-wide 
goal. It is more a goal that would inspire individual, otherwise unconnected, 
tasks over the next 5 years.

This goal was adapted from the "Help establish durable and stable working 
relationships with Linux/BSD/etc. distribution maintainers and packagers" 
goal, which is more or less the same thing, but with distros.

https://community.kde.org/Promo%27s_Long_Term_Goals#For_Technology

> > > it'd
> > > be good to take this to the community mailinglist.
> > 
> > Do you think so? Won't it come over as if Promo is dictating what the
> > community should do, when it should be the other way around?
> 
> I think that's exactly the point. If it should be a community-wide
> thing then it probably should go through the goals process? (I'll work
> on getting the next round started in the next weeks.)

I was looking at it as only being a way of achieving Promo's overarching goal 
of growing the community and consolidating KDE's influence beyond what we 
already have, not something the whole community should take on board.

That said, if you think it is interesting enough to merit involving the 
community as a whole, sure. I would not want to spearhead something like that 
though.

Cheers

Paul
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