Re: Fedora-9 Released

On Thursday 15 May 2008 00:00:24 Oron Peled wrote:
>  1. Most of the desktops (KDE/GNOME) are translated by upstream
>     (e.g: Diego and his merry band)
remove me, not doing this for 2-3 years ;-)

Oron, great work on the site, I really like it! If you did not do it, send my 
congratulations to who-ever did it!

> I already installed the F9-Preview about two weeks before release:
>    - glibc (threads) in the 90's.
I think we are ready to dump glibc and start rebuilding the world on top of 
ucblibc. IMHO it can handle a full system. How about putting that and rpm5 
(based on sqlite3) on FC10? :)

>    - NPTL (including backporting some parts into RH-9 2.4 kernels) 
Which killed a lot of applications - for example, remember wine? 

>    - SELinux
Which seems a good idea for large places, not it's an overkill for medium 
networks. FC is supposed to be a desktop distro (or test bunny for RH).

>    - NetworkManager (Feodra-7)
which is great, but sometimes drakconnect kicks its ass, and even wicd is 
better in many areas. still, a good example!

>    - gcj and Eclipse on gcj (before Sun released OpenJDK)
which was only a prove of concept - but unusable in real life. I always read 
that it's slow as hell and people recommend using the official JVM. Wait, can 
you install it on FC9? ;-)

>    - And OpenJDK now.
Which is  a great idea.

>    That is intentional. Exposing these technologies to a wide
>    audience (millions) surely helped them mature very quickly.
>    It didn't prevent many users (including me) to use these tools happily
>   (with very minor glitches from time to time).
Which just emphasizes my point: FC is not an end-user. but a test ground for 
developers or RedHat, to test what will go into RHEL.

>  * Just like you, I'm sure KDE-4.1 is far better than 4.0. Thanks to Fedora
>    early addoption I know I'll have it in F10 (~Sukot), and there's a very
>    good chance even F9 would get it as a daily update.
no dud, KDE 4.0 is not a user desktop, it's a developer API. The amount of 
stuff missing there is crazy. KDE 4.1 is the first user-dedicated desktop 
from the KDE4 family. Putting it as a main desktop is suicidal, really.

PS:
I just found this kick-ass utility - kbluelock. It's on the right click menu  
of KBlueTooth. I highly recommend it :)

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