Re: Connection timeouts - sending

On Thursday 19 March 2009 07:17:31 Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 March 2009, Peter wrote:
> > On Wednesday 18 March 2009 05:25:51 you wrote:
> > > Op Monday 16 March 2009 04:33 schreef u:
> > > > > > > Now, I know this is a server problem, not a KMail one, but
> > > > > > > how do I set the timeout in KMail please ?  I obviously
> > > > > > > need to make it much higher.
> > > >
> > > > Most email clients have this by default, you are able to set the
> > > > timeout period.
> > > >
> > > > Possibly this needs to go as a feature request ?
> > >
> > > No, the timeout is a kde-wide timeout iirc. Or even just the normal
> > > socket timeout for your system, not sure.
> >
> > Are we sure this is a KDE system setting ? Where would the normal
> > socket timeout for my system be ?
>
> In KDE 3 it can be found in the KDE Control Module under "Internet &
> Network/Connection Preferences".

I'm using KDE 4.1.4 , and gnome, so can't see anything. I use Network manager, 
which has many bugs, and just looked under the settings there, no preference 
there for timeouts.  :(

> > > I think it will clutter the interface without adding value.
> >
> > I don't agree. Adding one text box is hardly cluterring the
> > interface. The 'value' would be on a user by user basis, meaning the
> > user leaves it 'as is' , or can change it, to a higher/lower value.
>
> It is unnecessary, confusing noise for most users. That's my definition
> of clutter.

That's subjective of course, each person has a different view of clutter. But I 
can see it's not going to get added to the features list.  :)

> > > The timeouts should be fine for everyone,
> >
> > I think we are assuming too much here. If all KMail users informed us
> > that the timeouts are fine, then we could say that it is fine for
> > everyone, but not all KMail users need this feature of course, but
> > some probably do, or would like it. It's about giving the user the
> > opportunity to decide if they want to use such a setting or not, by
> > adding it as a feature, surely.
>
> Searching our bug database I found
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73423

It mentions timeout at 600 seconds, it certainly wasn't 10 mins, more like 2 
mins max.

> This bug has 0 votes and comments from exactly one user. Also I cannot
> remember when a user last sent a message to one of the relevant mailing
> lists because he had problems with the timeout (and, usually, I have a
> good memory, mind you). So, there's no indication that this problem is
> even remotely common. Moreover, you can change the timeout.

Ok, thanks for your help, I can see it's not important.  :D

Peter