Re: On going struggle to import KMail distribution list from KDE 3.5 or create new one (now using KDE 4.6)

Hi Gil,
you can try to find an answer to your problem at the buglist of KDE: 
http://bugs.kde.org
Type, in this case maybe, "KAdressbook" into the search field and you  
will get the answer if someone else has sent a bug-report.
or look into
http://forum.kde.org/index.php
Christian

Am Dienstag, 9. August 2011, 14:40:09 schrieb Gil Weber:
> On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:17:33 PM O. Sinclair wrote:
> > On 09/08/2011 18:06, Gil Weber wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:54:28 AM O. Sinclair wrote:
> > >> On 09/08/2011 15:07, Gil Weber wrote:
> > >>> Hello, everyone. First post to this list.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Sorry that it's a bit long-winded, but I want to be
> > >>> clear
> > >>> describing my problem and what I've done to try to
> > >>> find a
> > >>> solution.
> > >>> 
> > >>> I have searched the archives here and using Google.
> > >>> Everyone seems to have the same or similar problem,
> > >>> but no solutions!> >>> 
> > >>> :o)
> > >>> 
> > >>> I have recently upgraded from SuSE 11.1 to 11.4.
> > >>> Formerly using KDE 3.5 and now using KDE 4.6.00.
> > >>> 
> > >>> I do not use Kontact, only KMail (v. 1.13.6)
> > >>> 
> > >>> I have successfully migrated my e-mails from KDE 3.5,
> > >>> but no matter what I do I'm having a terrible time
> > >>> with the address book. I have copied over the address
> > >>> book, but the names are in completely random order.
> > >>> 
> > >>> I need to have them sorted by last name so I can find
> > >>> a name quickly, but I have not found a way to get
> > >>> KMail to sort this way.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Can anyone help with this first issue?
> > >>> 
> > >>> Further I cannot figure out how to copy over my old
> > >>> distribution lists, nor can I figure out how to
> > >>> create new ones.
> > >>> 
> > >>> I have looked and looked at various sources including
> > >>> SuSE and KDE discussion lists. Many, many, many
> > >>> people describe the same problem, but nobody seems to
> > >>> have an answer -- at least I have not found it.
> > >>> 
> > >>> In the process of trying things I may well have
> > >>> screwed up
> > >>> something in KMail (perhaps Akonadi?) so I really need
> > >>> help. (I am **not** a Linux guru!)
> > >>> 
> > >>> Can anyone help with this second issue of importing my
> > >>> existing distribution lists and/or creating new ones
> > >>> in KDE 4.6?
> > >>> 
> > >>> I am simply desperate to get the address book resorted
> > >>> and the distribution lists working as my business
> > >>> depends on being able to communicate with clients and
> > >>> subscribers.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Many thanks for your wise counsel and tolerance of
> > >>> this
> > >>> frustrated penguin.
> > >> 
> > >> You can forget your old distribution lists,
> > >> unfortunately. They are now known as "Groups" and you
> > >> will have to recreate them (please find me wrong anyone
> > >> but as far as I can remember I had to..).
> > >> 
> > >> in Kaddressbook, choose menu "File" and then "New" and
> > >> then Group. Add contacts by pressing the + sign and
> > >> start typing their names.
> > >> 
> > >> As for your sorting issue I hope someone else can assist
> > >> you.
> > >> 
> > >> In all honesty "Contacts" or Kaddressbook is still a far
> > >> cry from what it was before migrating to Akonadi
> > >> technology in terms of usability. In my opinion that
> > >> is... I think I have recreated my lists close to 10
> > >> times after "upgrades" rendered them unusable. For a
> > >> while I resorted to empty template emails addressed to
> > >> those I wanted to reach as a list.
> > >> 
> > >> Just to confuse they are still called Distribution Lists
> > >> in new mail(s) but Groups in Kaddressbook...
> > >> 
> > >> Best
> > >> Sinclair
> > > 
> > > Sinclair, thanks for this informative reply.
> > > 
> > > Just so I understand you correctly, you're saying I will
> > > have to retype each and every name and address into a new
> > > "Group" to create a mailing list? I can't simply go
> > > "click, click, click" on the various names to add them?
> > > 
> > > And where/when do I press the + sign?
> > > 
> > > After I do as you've suggested I see a box where I can
> > > enter the new Group's name.
> > > 
> > > Then below that is an area where I can type in last names
> > > and it adds the e-mail address. So far, so good.
> > > 
> > > But then when I click "OK" there are no names in the
> > > Group.
> > > 
> > > What am I not understanding about this process? Does it
> > > have
> > > something to do with the + sign?
> > > Thx
> > 
> > Gil,
> > 
> > unfortunately there is no (that I know of) "choose a bunch of
> > contacts and then create a list". It still exists as an option
> > in a mail you create (save as distribution list, right?) but
> > I don't think it works at this moment.
> > 
> > you give the group a name, click the first "envelope" line in
> > the window and start typing. Your chosen contact should show
> > up after a few letters. Then you click on the next empty
> > "envelop line". Sorry the plus sign seems to be a phantom in
> > my memory, could be that it existed in an earlier version.
> 
> Sinclair, again, thanks. I really appreciate the time you've put
> into your answers. But still it's not working.   :o(
> 
> 1) I saved a nine-name group following your directions.
> 2) When I then try to look at the contents of the group it shows 0
> contacts.
> 3) I sent a test e-mail anyway to the (supposed) group.
> 4) It bounced back to me as undeliverable, stating the message had
> been addressed to <name of the group>@<name of my computer>.com
> 
> But clearly I did not send the message to that non-existent
> address. Rather, I sent it (or tried to send it) to 9 distinct
> e-mail addresses that are in my address book.
> 
> This is the same problem that has been described repeatedly on
> various discussion groups.
> 
> How can this significant problem be so widespread for so long
> since the release of KDE 4 yet it's still not fixed? Or has it
> been fixed but we're not aware of the fix?
> 
> Thanks
> Gil__________________________________________
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