Re: Overcoming the "Dylan is Dead" belief?

Bruce Hoult <[email protected]> Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:41:09 +1200
Newsgroups gmane.comp.lang.dylan.gwydion.devel
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Yes, I've seen that.

I don't think that alters the fundamental problem that while things such as
copy-sequence and concatenate and replace-subsequence let you do anything
you want, they are verbose and harder to both read and write than using
things such as + and slicing operations in other languages. String
interpolation syntax is also huge.

We're not talking fundamental capabilities here, but just syntactic sugar
that lets people do the grubby work often needed in handling HTML or XML
with a whole lot less typing and shorter and easier to read lines of code.



On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Bruce Mitchener
<[email protected]>wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Bruce Hoult <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Data structures: primarily improving string handling, that I can
>> immediately think of.
>>
>
> Have you seen this:
>
> http://opendylan.org/documentation/library-reference/strings/
> http://opendylan.org/documentation/library-reference/regular-expressions/
>
> What's missing from there other than Unicode (which is big)?
>
>
>> OS stuff .. navigating directory structures, slurping up files in various
>> ways (whole file, by line, by string or RE delim) etc. Processes.
>> Networking.
>>  You can do everything in Dylan, but I think for a beginner things such
>> as Python and Ruby are more discoverable, better documented, and terser.
>>
>
> Will respond to this later as I must run out for some errands.
>
>  - Bruce
>
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