Re: A modest proposal (re the Platform)

Johan Tibell <[email protected]> Sun, 19 Jan 2014 15:19:18 -0800
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On Jan 19, 2014 3:15 PM, "Mark Lentczner" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Looks like GHC 7.8 is pretty near release.
>
> And while I know that we really like to have a GHC out for a while, and
> perhaps see the .1 release, before we incorporate it into the Platform,
> this GHC, while including many new and anticipated things, seems pretty
> well hammered on.
>
> Combine that with the now two-month late (all my fault) HP release for
> 2013.4.0.0 isn't slated to really have all that much new in it, in part
> because it is the same GHC as the last HP release.
>
> Now - it would really look foolish, and taken poorly (methinks) if we
> release a HP this month - only to have GHC 7.8 release early Feb. Folks
> would really be head scratching, and wondering about the platform.
>
> SO - I'm proposing ditching the now late 2013.4.0.0 (I admit, I'm finding
> it hard to get excited by it!) and instead move right to putting out
> 2014.2.0.0 - aimed for mid-March to mid-April.
>
> This release would have several big changes:
>
>    - GHC 7.8
>    - New shake based build for the Platform
>    - Support for validation via package tests
>    - Support for a "server variant" (no OpenGL or other GUI stuff if we
>    had any)
>    - Automated version info w/historical version matrix page
>    - Several significant packages: I'd like to see Aeson at the very
>    least, updated OpenGL stuff
>
> I'd also propose changes for the Mac build (though this is obviously
> independent):
>
>    - Built from GHC source, not dist. release. (guarantees consistent
>    release)
>    - Only 64bit (I know, controversial...)
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">+1</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jan 19, 2014 3:15 PM, &quot;Mark Lentczner&qu=
ot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Looks like GHC 7.8 is pretty near release.<div><br><div>An=
d while I know that we really like to have a GHC out for a while, and perha=
ps see the .1 release, before we incorporate it into the Platform, this GHC=
, while including many new and anticipated things, seems pretty well hammer=
ed on.</div>


</div><div><br></div><div>Combine that with the now two-month late (all my =
fault) HP release for 2013.4.0.0 isn&#39;t slated to really have all that m=
uch new in it, in part because it is the same GHC as the last HP release.</=
div>


<div><br></div><div>Now - it would really look foolish, and taken poorly (m=
ethinks) if we release a HP this month - only to have GHC 7.8 release early=
 Feb. Folks would really be head scratching, and wondering about the platfo=
rm.</div>


<div><br></div><div>SO - I&#39;m proposing ditching the now late 2013.4.0.0=
 (I admit, I&#39;m finding it hard to get excited by it!) and instead move =
right to putting out 2014.2.0.0 - aimed for mid-March to mid-April.</div>


<div><br></div><div>This release would have several big changes:</div><div>=
<ul><li>GHC 7.8<br></li><li>New shake based build for the Platform</li><li>=
Support for validation via package tests</li><li>Support for a &quot;server=
 variant&quot; (no OpenGL or other GUI stuff if we had any)</li>


<li>Automated version info w/historical version matrix page</li><li>Several=
 significant packages: I&#39;d like to see Aeson at the very least, updated=
 OpenGL stuff</li></ul><div>I&#39;d also propose changes for the Mac build =
(though this is obviously independent):</div>


</div><div><ul><li>Built from GHC source, not dist. release. (guarantees co=
nsistent release)</li><li>Only 64bit (I know, controversial...)</li></ul><d=
iv>Thoughts?</div></div><div><br></div></div>
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