Re: A modest proposal (re the Platform)

Bob Ippolito <[email protected]> Sun, 19 Jan 2014 15:20:34 -0800
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+1

I'm just a user, but I'm very excited about the possibility of getting a
GHC 7.8 platform release sooner than later (especially considering Mio and
the other great additions). Another release with the same GHC wouldn't do
me much good.


On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Mark Lentczner <[email protected]>wrote:

> Looks like GHC 7.8 is pretty near release.
>
> And while I know that we really like to have a GHC out for a while, and
> perhaps see the .1 release, before we incorporate it into the Platform,
> this GHC, while including many new and anticipated things, seems pretty
> well hammered on.
>
> Combine that with the now two-month late (all my fault) HP release for
> 2013.4.0.0 isn't slated to really have all that much new in it, in part
> because it is the same GHC as the last HP release.
>
> Now - it would really look foolish, and taken poorly (methinks) if we
> release a HP this month - only to have GHC 7.8 release early Feb. Folks
> would really be head scratching, and wondering about the platform.
>
> SO - I'm proposing ditching the now late 2013.4.0.0 (I admit, I'm finding
> it hard to get excited by it!) and instead move right to putting out
> 2014.2.0.0 - aimed for mid-March to mid-April.
>
> This release would have several big changes:
>
>    - GHC 7.8
>    - New shake based build for the Platform
>    - Support for validation via package tests
>    - Support for a "server variant" (no OpenGL or other GUI stuff if we
>    had any)
>    - Automated version info w/historical version matrix page
>    - Several significant packages: I'd like to see Aeson at the very
>    least, updated OpenGL stuff
>
> I'd also propose changes for the Mac build (though this is obviously
> independent):
>
>    - Built from GHC source, not dist. release. (guarantees consistent
>    release)
>    - Only 64bit (I know, controversial...)
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">+1<div><br></div><div>I&#39;m just a user, but I&#39;m ver=
y excited about the possibility of getting a GHC 7.8 platform release soone=
r than later (especially considering Mio and the other great additions). An=
other release with the same GHC wouldn&#39;t do me much good.</div>
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun,=
 Jan 19, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Mark Lentczner <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]<=
/a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Looks like GHC 7.8 is prett=
y near release.<div><br><div>And while I know that we really like to have a=
 GHC out for a while, and perhaps see the .1 release, before we incorporate=
 it into the Platform, this GHC, while including many new and anticipated t=
hings, seems pretty well hammered on.</div>


</div><div><br></div><div>Combine that with the now two-month late (all my =
fault) HP release for 2013.4.0.0 isn&#39;t slated to really have all that m=
uch new in it, in part because it is the same GHC as the last HP release.</=
div>


<div><br></div><div>Now - it would really look foolish, and taken poorly (m=
ethinks) if we release a HP this month - only to have GHC 7.8 release early=
 Feb. Folks would really be head scratching, and wondering about the platfo=
rm.</div>


<div><br></div><div>SO - I&#39;m proposing ditching the now late 2013.4.0.0=
 (I admit, I&#39;m finding it hard to get excited by it!) and instead move =
right to putting out 2014.2.0.0 - aimed for mid-March to mid-April.</div>


<div><br></div><div>This release would have several big changes:</div><div>=
<ul><li>GHC 7.8<br></li><li>New shake based build for the Platform</li><li>=
Support for validation via package tests</li><li>Support for a &quot;server=
 variant&quot; (no OpenGL or other GUI stuff if we had any)</li>


<li>Automated version info w/historical version matrix page</li><li>Several=
 significant packages: I&#39;d like to see Aeson at the very least, updated=
 OpenGL stuff</li></ul><div>I&#39;d also propose changes for the Mac build =
(though this is obviously independent):</div>


</div><div><ul><li>Built from GHC source, not dist. release. (guarantees co=
nsistent release)</li><li>Only 64bit (I know, controversial...)</li></ul><d=
iv>Thoughts?</div></div><div><br></div></div>
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