Re: 2nd gen Io
[email protected] Thu, 13 Mar 2014 17:33:24 +0100
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Sorry for the following dumb question :) "Any object can become a domain ..." In IO2, if I understand correctly, we have objects that represent execution threads, these objects are called domains, and they "run" other objects (those that belong to them)? Selon Steve Dekorte <[email protected]>: > > Id like to make the things that tend to be re-implemented in typical > projects part of the language - security, persistence, concurrency, > distribution and user interaction. All of these could be seen as mapping > problems and their solution as adding explicit mapping boundaries. > > The first idea (which was probably already done in Smalltalk in 1980s) is to > add a pointer to each object in the system to its owner and have object > ownership domains where the domain leader is an actor/process whose execution > thread is used for processing all messages sent to objects within its > domain. Any object can become a domain of the objects below it in the > ownership graph. Domain boundaries are used to solve the problems of security > (tracking and verifying authority to invoke behaviors), concurrency (avoid > unexpected state changes, closely associate execution with the state it will > be working on), distribution and persistence (boundaries determine the state > which needs to be persisted or moved). > > Part of the persistence component is to support the indexing and lazy loading > of individual objects and standard representations that can be externally > manipulated and returned and merged with an optimistic locking mechanism. > > The user interaction part involves extending slots to have metadata and a > standard set of properties which are used for the interface mapping. > > This would be a big project but hopefully there will be time in the future to > take a stab at it. > > Sorry for the delay in responding, > Steve > > On Feb 24, 2014, at 6:06 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Come on Steve, there are Io fans who wanna hear about it! Let us chat. > > > > Selon Steve Dekorte <[email protected]>: > >> > >> On Feb 19, 2014, at 1:28 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> When there's no matching slot, the "forward" slot is activated. > >>> > >>> I have this idea about a "before" slot: > >>> > >>> If "before" doesn't exist, everything works as usual. > >>> > >>> If "before" exists, it is always activated (and it receives the message) > >> before > >>> the slot lookup. Then, it produces a message (possibly the same) which > will > >> be > >>> treated as usual. > >>> > >>> This could be used to test whether the sender as the "right" to access a > >>> particular slot, for example. > >> > >> Hi Julien, > >> > >> I like the idea. On my list for a 2nd gen Io is some form of support for > >> rights on all objects. > >> > >>> Is there already a way to do this at user level? > >> > >> You can get the same effect using a proxy to forward message to the real > >> object. > >> Io uses proxies for futures and supports turning all references of one > object > >> to another. > >> > >>> Also, would anybody have a little constructive criticism about Io? > >> > >> Always welcome! :) > >> > >> Steve > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo Groups Links > > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iolanguage/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iolanguage/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to: https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/