Re: Jython 2.7 rc3 soft launch
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On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Jeff Allen <[email protected]> wrote: > It wasn't a stop the launch message, just reporting what I saw. I'm happy to > go with others' judgement. > > I am *instinctively* a bit uncomfortable that anything go out with failing > or skipped tests. But my instincts have been shaped by the sort of subjects > where just one counterexample proves you wrong, *not* by much experience > launching software products. I'm interested in how this level of test > conformance maps to user experience. I think Jython is pretty good now and > that we won't be buried in bug reports. > > I'd like to see testing give us a clearer result. At the moment it always > fails and you have to work out what kind of failure to know where you stand. > On the one hand I think defects should be visible and painful; on the other > I'd like to have a test that only shouts when something unexpected happens. > (And I'd like a build bot to do the shouting.) Now I understand regrtest > better (since the weekend!), and which parts we added, I think it offers a > way of saying "everything is as expected (but don't forget these problems)", > vs. "you just broke something", with only the latter being shouted. It's > nearly there. You are totally right Jeff, getting a clean regression test is the goal, and I think we are getting close. Some kind of built bot would be even better :) It should be very doable in the 2.7.x series. With the 3.x series I hope to go even further and someday have build bots that actually track changes in the standard CPython library as they come in. Well, I can dream can't I? :) -Frank ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=VA_SF