Re: the health of Jython

I'd be interested in hearing the various use cases people have for python
that made them opt for 'both' as opposed to purely python or Java?

On 17 Sep 2016 2:42 a.m., "Jon Christopher" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I love jython and use it frequently, and have over 3 decades of
> programming experience----so not quite a newbie.
>
> Jython works like magic for the most part but the integration is so slick
> sometimes I forget which platform I'm on.  The Java objects start looking
> like python objects and vice versa (which is the whole point, after all),
> but it can be a bit confusing---even though it all just works.
>
> So...I'm willing to cut the newbies some slack on their confusion here.
>
> -Jon
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Adam Burke <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> It doesn't, of course - it looks like a  reaction from a beginner who
>> hasn't learnt to contextually separate a language from the platform
>> surrounding it.
>>
>> It might speak to the need for clearer doco entry points, though. The
>> dominance (and usefulness) of stackoverflow for new programmers is also
>> interesting. Because the foundation of jython predates it, there's not as
>> much of a community around Jython there, that I've seen.
>>
>> We made the wiki closed to anon edits because of nasty spam problems, but
>> contributors are very welcome - just ask on this mailing list.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> > 在 17 Sep 2016，8:32 AM，Michael Chisholm <[email protected]> 写道：
>> >
>> > On 9/16/2016 1:13 PM, Guzdial, Mark wrote:
>> >>> Apparently a lot of new programmers are being introduced to
>> programming through CPython ... shouldn't the poor kids be learning Jython
>> instead?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Actually, many of the students at University who are learning Python
>> are actually learning Jython.  The textbook that Barbara Ericson and I
>> wrote uses Jython: https://www.amazon.com/Introdu
>> ction-Computing-Programming-Python-4th/dp/0134025547.  Last I saw market
>> analysis, it's the third most popular Python University textbook, at least
>> in the US.  If you read the reviews for the book, you'll see that lots of
>> people are confused about Jython vs. Python.  Quoting one:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> This book is a prescribed text for a course: that's the only reason to
>> buy it. Its biggest problem: false advertising. This is NOT a book on
>> Python, it's about JYTHON - A Java based imitation of Python.
>> >> Why? Well, there's some pretty software, available to download, which
>> uses the the JRE. The author chose to stick with this "easy learning
>> environment" and basically cripple anyone wanting to write Python code for
>> Blender, Maya, Android etc.
>> >>
>> >> You may learn to program from this text, but don't expect a
>> trouble-free life when you get exposed to the real language.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The IDE that we wrote for the book, JES, is all Jython, and has been
>> used by thousands of students for over a decade now: See
>> http://cacm.acm.org/blogs/blog-cacm/205801-14-years-of-a-
>> learner-centered-python-ide/fulltext
>> >
>> > So I'll just ask the obvious: CPython and Jython are supposed to be
>> > alternative implementations of the same language, Python.  IronPython is
>> > another.  How does a different implementation imply a different
>> language?
>> >
>> > Andy
>> >
>> >
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