Re: The OCaml MOOC offered again?
"Douglas Lewit [email protected] [ocaml_beginners]" <[email protected]> Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:39:17 -0600
| Newsgroups | gmane.comp.lang.ocaml.beginners |
|---|---|
| Message-ID | <CAM0XMJSsu=aqHPvXT9CKew0h9ARX22pUSMn=BERZpHS1qRCStQ@mail.gmail.com> |
--001a113a14d0c8559805476c70f8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Martin, Yes, the stuff written by John Whitington is WONDERFUL. He offers a step-by-step approach that I really like. I'm afraid I'm not a big fan of "Real World OCaml". I know the authors are geniuses.... but I am not! :-) And "Think Like A Functional Programmer" is excellent, but I wish it was longer and more comprehensive. Have a great day and thanks! Best, Doug. On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Martin DeMello [email protected] [ocaml_beginners] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > This is a good starting point if you're looking for books: > > https://github.com/rizo/awesome-ocaml#books > > There aren't many yet, but they're definitely out there and the community > is gaining momentum. > > martin > > On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Douglas Lewit [email protected] > [ocaml_beginners] <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> Hi Alexandre, >> >> But what about Haskell? Haskell has a huge amount of documentation to >> support it. I believe Haskell originally began at the University of >> Edinborough in Scotland as a mostly academic initiative. Now if I visit >> Amazon.com there are DOZENS of books about Haskell, and www.oreilly.com >> now offers two or maybe three tutorial video collections on Haskell. Bo= th >> Haskell and Scala are very well documented. So is F#. OCaml has much l= ess >> documentation to support it, and that's a weakness. ( More a weakness o= f >> the culture than of the language per se. ) Other languages are also we= ll >> supported with very good documentation. There must be hundreds of books >> and YouTube videos describing all the functions, libraries and applicati= ons >> of Python, Ruby, Java, JavaScript, etc, etc. Even in the obscure world = of >> AI one can find some good documentation explaining how to write code in >> LISP and how to use Emacs as an IDE/editor. I just wish that the OCaml >> community would follow that example. I sort of get the feeling that the >> only way to really learn everything about OCaml is to get a job working = at >> Jane Street. Otherwise.... well, good luck! >> >> Actually.... there's a good question. Does Jane Street have any >> documentation for OCaml that is *open to the public*? I've tried >> looking for some, but so far haven't had much success trying to find it. >> >> Best, >> >> Douglas. >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Alexandre Gouraud >> [email protected] [ocaml_beginners] < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Dears, >>> >>> Let me give you my two cents to this story. OCaml has been created by a >>> french "public" research organisation called Inria. Therefore, the >>> evolutions of the language have followed requirements that are way far = from >>> the promotion and adoption of a language by a majority of users. Their >>> requirements were more research oriented, with quite limited resources.= If >>> it turns out that the language is useful and used by many researchers o= r >>> developers, fine, but it was/is not the initial objective, nor any long= ( >>> er) term objective. Research organizations, by nature, cannot deal with >>> such objectives, as Microsoft or Sun or Google do with their own langua= ge. >>> This being said, even business oriented organisation do not promote >>> languages for the fun of it, it is usually because they think it brings >>> them strategic advantage on their market...remember. >>> >>> At the end, INRIA's people don't have time anymore to promote the >>> language, develop it, write books and answer to questions. They mainly = rely >>> on the community. This is why there is no decent environment for Window= s >>> developers, and I am the first one to deplore it. Finally, remember tha= t >>> it was a french initiative. I believe that because the engineers who fi= rst >>> adopted it were not native English speakers was a barrier (and still is= ) a >>> barrier to wider adoption of the language, despite the HUGE penetration= of >>> this language in the world. You see here the power of the language of a >>> culture and the influence it allows. >>> >>> OCaml is great ! Keep coding :-) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Alexandre. >>> >>> 2017-01-31 17:58 GMT+01:00 Douglas Lewit [email protected] >>> [ocaml_beginners] <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Looks like it's a major relief for you to type + instead of ^ ? Haha= hahahaha.... >>>> very funny!!! I'm not sure if one language is really "better" than >>>> another, but I find it really interesting why Don Syme ( F#'s creator = ) did >>>> it his way and why Xavier Leroy ( OCaml's creator ) did it another way= . >>>> Don Syme obviously made the decision that it was silly to have + for i= nts >>>> and +. for floats, and I think in OCaml you need +/ for big ints, etc, >>>> etc. So Don Syme combined everything into one overloaded operator. I= s it >>>> good or bad? I'm not sure. It depends on the programmer and why you'= re >>>> programming. BUT.... I still believe that language documentation is v= ery, >>>> very important. You can have the greatest computer language in the wo= rld, >>>> but if nobody writes about it or teaches it.... then who is going to k= now >>>> about it except a minority of elite developers?! ( And the elitist >>>> mentality will not help a language to become popular and successful. ) >>>> >>>> The OCaml MOOC is a fun course, and full of great information, but I >>>> don't like that the team behind it is pretty bad about answering email >>>> queries. I sent a couple of emails to OCamlPro requesting more inform= ation >>>> and did not get back a single reply. I guess I'm not important enough= for >>>> them to worry about! ( Or so they think. ) Again.... a wonderful >>>> language, but the community of people supporting the language have to = do >>>> their work to promote the language. Unless of course we want OCaml to= go >>>> the route of Pascal or Perl! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:43 PM, Pierpaolo Bernardi >>>> [email protected] [ocaml_beginners] <[email protected]= > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:53 PM, Douglas Lewit [email protected] >>>>> [ocaml_beginners] <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Hello everyone, >>>>> > >>>>> > Remember that OCaml MOOC offered through that university in Paris, >>>>> France? Does anyone know if that course is going to be offered again = in the >>>>> near future? It wasn't bad! Definitely challenging, but I learned a l= ot. >>>>> >>>>> The MOOC has been offered in 2015 and in 2016, both times it started >>>>> around Oct/Nov. Lacking any other information, we can extrapolate >>>>> from this small data set and hope that the MOOC will be offered again >>>>> toward the end of 2017 :) >>>>> >>>>> > If I want to concatenate the strings "Hello, " and "World!" in OCam= l >>>>> I have to write "Hello, " ^ "World!", but in F# I would just write "H= ello, >>>>> " + "World!". >>>>> >>>>> Just for curiosity, why in Ocaml you *HAVE*TO* use ^, while in F# you >>>>> *JUST* use + ? >>>>> >>>>> Looks like it's a major relief for you to type + instead of ^ ? >>>>> >>>>> > The operator overloading feature however does have a disadvantage >>>>> because if I don't make use of specific type annotations then the typ= e >>>>> checker automatically assumes that my function arguments are integers= .... >>>>> and that is not always an accurate assumption! >>>>> >>>>> That's correct. And in addition, even when the assumptions turn out >>>>> to be accurate, the code is less clear for a human reader. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >> >=20 > --001a113a14d0c8559805476c70f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/htm= l4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> =20 <body style=3D"background-color: #fff;"> <span style=3D"display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"position:relative;"> <div id=3D"ygrp-msg" style=3D"z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-text" > =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p><div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"4">Thanks Martin,</font><div><font = size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"4">Yes, the stuff written by= John Whitington is WONDERFUL.=C2=A0 He offers a step-by-step approach that= I really like.=C2=A0 I'm afraid I'm not a big fan of "Real Wo= rld OCaml".=C2=A0 I know the authors are geniuses.... but I am not! = =C2=A0:-) =C2=A0 And "Think Like A Functional Programmer" is exce= llent, but I wish it was longer and more comprehensive.</font></div><div><f= ont size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"4">Have a great day and = thanks!</font></div><div><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font size= =3D"4">Best,</font></div><div><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font = size=3D"4">Doug.</font></div><div><font size=3D"4">=C2=A0=C2=A0</font></div= ></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Ja= n 31, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Martin DeMello <a href=3D"mailto:martindemello@gmail= .com">[email protected]</a> [ocaml_beginners] <span dir=3D"ltr"><<= a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">ocaml_b= [email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai= l_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;"> <u></u> =20 <div style=3D"background-color:#fff;"> <span>=C2=A0</span> <div id=3D"m_-5757496184798194788ygrp-mlmsg"> <div id=3D"m_-5757496184798194788ygrp-msg"> <div id=3D"m_-5757496184798194788ygrp-text"> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p></p><div dir=3D"ltr">This is a good starting point if you're l= ooking for books:<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://github.com/rizo/awe= some-ocaml#books" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/rizo/<wbr>awesome-oc= aml#books</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>There aren't many yet, but t= hey're definitely out there and the community is gaining momentum.</div= ><div><br></div><div>martin</div></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D= "gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 3:25 P= M, Douglas Lewit <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">del= [email protected]</a> [ocaml_beginners] <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailt= o:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">ocaml_beginners@yahoog= roups.<wbr>com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s= tyle=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;"> <u></u> =20 <div style=3D"background-color:#fff;"> <span>=C2=A0</span> <div id=3D"m_-5757496184798194788m_5498942033128934038ygrp-mlmsg"> <div id=3D"m_-5757496184798194788m_5498942033128934038ygrp-msg"> <div id=3D"m_-5757496184798194788m_5498942033128934038ygrp-text"> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p></p><div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"4">Hi Alexandre,</font><div><fo= nt size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"4">But what about Haskell= ?=C2=A0 Haskell has a huge amount of documentation to support it.=C2=A0 I b= elieve Haskell originally began at the University of Edinborough in Scotlan= d as a mostly academic initiative.=C2=A0 Now if I visit Amazon.com there ar= e DOZENS of books about Haskell, and <a href=3D"http://www.oreilly.com" tar= get=3D"_blank">www.oreilly.com</a> now offers two or maybe three tutorial v= ideo collections on Haskell.=C2=A0 Both Haskell and Scala are very well doc= umented.=C2=A0 So is F#.=C2=A0 OCaml has much less documentation to support= it, and that's a weakness. =C2=A0( More a weakness of the culture than= of the language per se. ) =C2=A0 Other languages are also well supported w= ith very good documentation.=C2=A0 There must be hundreds of books and YouT= ube videos describing all the functions, libraries and applications of Pyth= on, Ruby, Java, JavaScript, etc, etc.=C2=A0 Even in the obscure world of AI= one can find some good documentation explaining how to write code in LISP = and how to use Emacs as an IDE/editor.=C2=A0 I just wish that the OCaml com= munity would follow that example.=C2=A0 I sort of get the feeling that the = only way to really learn everything about OCaml is to get a job working at = Jane Street.=C2=A0 Otherwise.... well, good luck!</font></div><div><font si= ze=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"4">Actually.... there's a = good question.=C2=A0 Does Jane Street have any documentation for OCaml that= is <i><u>open to the public</u></i>?=C2=A0 I've tried looking for some= , but so far haven't had much success trying to find it.</font></div><d= iv><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"4">Best,</font></di= v><div><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"4">Douglas.</fo= nt></div><div><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"4"><br><= /font></div><div><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div></div><div><div class=3D= "m_-5757496184798194788h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gma= il_quote">On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Alexandre Gouraud <a href=3D"mai= lto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">alexandre.gouraud= @enst-bretagn<wbr>e.fr</a> [ocaml_beginners] <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href= =3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">ocaml_beginne= [email protected]<wbr>om</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail= _quote" style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;"> <u></u> =20 <div style=3D"background-color:#fff;"> <span>=C2=A0</span> <div id=3D"m_-5757496184798194788m_5498942033128934038m_-651562237197688582= 5ygrp-mlmsg"> <div id=3D"m_-5757496184798194788m_5498942033128934038m_-6515622371976885= 825ygrp-msg"> <div id=3D"m_-5757496184798194788m_5498942033128934038m_-65156223719768= 85825ygrp-text"> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p></p><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Dears, </div><div><br></div><div>Let me = give you my two=C2=A0cents to this story. <span id=3D"m_-575749618479819478= 8m_5498942033128934038m_-6515622371976885825:141.42">OCaml</span> has been = created by a french "public"=C2=A0research organisation called <s= pan id=3D"m_-5757496184798194788m_5498942033128934038m_-6515622371976885825= :141.43">Inria</span>. Therefore, the evolutions of the language have follo= wed requirements that are way far from the promotion and adoption of a lang= uage by a majority of users. Their requirements were more research oriented= , with quite limited resources.=C2=A0If it turns out that the language is u= seful and used by many researchers or developers, fine, but it was/is not t= he initial objective, nor any long(<span id=3D"m_-5757496184798194788m_5498= 942033128934038m_-6515622371976885825:141.44">er</span>) term objective. Re= search <span id=3D"m_-5757496184798194788m_5498942033128934038m_-6515622371= 976885825:141.45">organizations</span>, by nature, cannot deal with such ob= jectives, as Microsoft or Sun or Google do with their own language. This be= ing said, even business oriented organisation do not promote languages for = the fun of it, it is usually because they think it brings them strategic ad= vantage on their market...remember. </div><div><br></div><div>At the end, <= span id=3D"m_-5757496184798194788m_5498942033128934038m_-651562237197688582= 5:141.46">INRIA's</span> people don't have time anymore to promote = the language, develop it, write books and answer to questions. They mainly = rely on the community. This is why there is no decent environment for Windo= ws developers, and I am the first one to deplore it. Finally, remember that= it=C2=A0was a french initiative.=C2=A0I=C2=A0believe that because=C2=A0the= =C2=A0engineers who first adopted it=C2=A0were not native English speakers = was a barrier (and still is)=C2=A0a barrier to wider adoption of the langua= ge, despite the=C2=A0HUGE penetration of this language in the world. You se= e here the power of the language of a culture and the influence it allows. = </div><div><br></div><div><span id=3D"m_-5757496184798194788m_5498942033128= 934038m_-6515622371976885825:141.47">OCaml</span> is great ! Keep coding :-= )</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers, </div><div><br></div><div>Alexandre. </d= iv></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2017-01-= 31 17:58 GMT+01:00 Douglas Lewit <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" t= arget=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> [ocaml_beginners] <span dir=3D"ltr">= <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">oc= [email protected]<wbr>om</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"= gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;"> <u></u> =20 <div style=3D"background-color:#fff;"> <span>=C2=A0</span> <div id=3D"m_-5757496184798194788m_5498942033128934038m_-651562237197688582= 5m_-8400783697855280523ygrp-mlmsg"> <div id=3D"m_-5757496184798194788m_5498942033128934038m_-6515622371976885= 825m_-8400783697855280523ygrp-msg"> <div id=3D"m_-5757496184798194788m_5498942033128934038m_-65156223719768= 85825m_-8400783697855280523ygrp-text"> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p></p><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-family:georgia;font-size:= 13px;">Looks like it's a major relief for you to type + instead of ^ ? = =C2=A0 </span><font face=3D"monospace, monospace" size=3D"4">Hahahahahaha..= .. very funny!!!=C2=A0 I'm not sure if one language is really "bet= ter" than another, but I find it really interesting why Don Syme ( F#&= #39;s creator ) did it his way and why Xavier Leroy ( OCaml's creator )= did it another way.=C2=A0 Don Syme obviously made the decision that it was= silly to have + for ints and +. for floats, and I think in OCaml you need = +/ for big ints, etc, etc.=C2=A0 So Don Syme combined everything into o= ne overloaded operator.=C2=A0 Is it good or bad?=C2=A0 I'm not sure.=C2= =A0 It depends on the programmer and why you're programming.=C2=A0 BUT.= ... I still believe that language documentation is very, very important.=C2= =A0 You can have the greatest computer language in the world, but if nobody= writes about it or teaches it.... then who is going to know about it excep= t a minority of elite developers?! =C2=A0( And the elitist mentality will n= ot help a language to become popular and successful. )</font><div><font fac= e=3D"monospace, monospace" size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font face=3D"m= onospace, monospace" size=3D"4">The OCaml MOOC is a fun course, and full of= great information, but I don't like that the team behind it is pretty = bad about answering email queries.=C2=A0 I sent a couple of emails to OCaml= Pro requesting more information and did not get back a single reply.=C2=A0 = I guess I'm not important enough for them to worry about! =C2=A0( Or so= they think. ) =C2=A0Again.... a wonderful language, but the community of p= eople supporting the language have to do their work to promote the language= .=C2=A0 Unless of course we want OCaml to go the route of Pascal or Perl!</= font></div><div><font face=3D"monospace, monospace" size=3D"4"><br></font><= /div></div><span><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">= On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:43 PM, Pierpaolo Bernardi <a href=3D"mailto:olop= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> [ocaml_beginners= ] <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = target=3D"_blank">[email protected]<wbr>om</a>></span> wrote= :<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;= "> <u></u> =20 <div style=3D"background-color:#fff;"> <span>=C2=A0</span> <div id=3D"m_-5757496184798194788m_5498942033128934038m_-651562237197688582= 5m_-8400783697855280523m_-7001109014211587405ygrp-mlmsg"> <div id=3D"m_-5757496184798194788m_5498942033128934038m_-6515622371976885= 825m_-8400783697855280523m_-7001109014211587405ygrp-msg"> <div id=3D"m_-5757496184798194788m_5498942033128934038m_-65156223719768= 85825m_-8400783697855280523m_-7001109014211587405ygrp-text"> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p><span>On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:53 PM, Douglas Lewit <a href=3D"m= ailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br> [ocaml_beginners] <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" ta= rget=3D"_blank">[email protected]<wbr>om</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > Hello everyone,<br> ><br> > Remember that OCaml MOOC offered through that university in Paris, Fra= nce? Does anyone know if that course is going to be offered again in the n= ear future? It wasn't bad! Definitely challenging, but I learned a lo= t.<br> <br></span> The MOOC has been offered in 2015 and in 2016, both times it started<br> around Oct/Nov. Lacking any other information, we can extrapolate<br> from this small data set and hope that the MOOC will be offered again<br> toward the end of 2017 :)<span><br> <br> > If I want to concatenate the strings "Hello, " and "W= orld!" in OCaml I have to write "Hello, " ^ "World!&quo= t;, but in F# I would just write "Hello, " + "World!".<= br> <br></span> Just for curiosity, why in Ocaml you *HAVE*TO* use ^, while in F# you<br> *JUST* use + ?<br> <br> Looks like it's a major relief for you to type + instead of ^ ?<span><b= r> <br> > The operator overloading feature however does have a disadvantage beca= use if I don't make use of specific type annotations then the type chec= ker automatically assumes that my function arguments are integers.... and t= hat is not always an accurate assumption!<br> <br></span> That's correct. And in addition, even when the assumptions turn out<br= > to be accurate, the code is less clear for a human reader.<br> <br> Cheers<br> </p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"color:#fff;height:0;"></div> </div> =20=20 </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> </span><p></p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"color:#fff;height:0;"></div> </div> =20=20 </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div class= =3D"m_-5757496184798194788m_5498942033128934038m_-6515622371976885825gmail_= signature">Alexandre</div> </div> <p></p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"color:#fff;height:0;"></div> </div> =20=20 </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> </div></div><p></p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"color:#fff;height:0;"></div> </div> =20=20 </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> </div></div><p></p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"color:#fff;height:0;"></div> </div> =20=20 </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> </p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style=3D"color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20 =20 =20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"clear:both"> </div> <div id=3D"fromDMARC" style=3D"margin-top: 10px;"> <hr style=3D"height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background= -color:#E3E3E3;"> Posted by: Douglas Lewit <[email protected]> <hr style= =3D"height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;"> </div> <div style=3D"clear:both"> </div> <table cellspacing=3D4px style=3D"margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px= ; color: #2D50FD;"> <tbody> <tr> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; font-weight: bo= ld; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a style=3D"text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD= " href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ocaml_beginners/conversations= /messages/14748;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJxcWJwY3FzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQ5OTkxOTQE= Z3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NzY0BG1zZ0lkAzE0NzQ4BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTQ= 4NTkwNTk2Mw--?act=3Dreply&messageNum=3D14748">Reply via web post</a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px;" > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe%3A%20%22ocaml_= beginners%22%3A%3A%5B%5D%20The%20OCaml%20MOOC%20offered%20again%3F" style= =3D"text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;"> Reply to sender </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px;"> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe%= 3A%20%22ocaml_beginners%22%3A%3A%5B%5D%20The%20OCaml%20MOOC%20offered%20aga= in%3F" style=3D"text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD"> Reply to group </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px;" > <a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ocaml_beginners/= conversations/newtopic;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJlaHFrcGEwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQ5O= TkxOTQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NzY0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQ4NTkwNTk2= Mw--" style=3D"text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD">Start a New Topic</a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px;color: #2D50FD;" > <a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/= ocaml_beginners/conversations/topics/14740;_ylc=3DX3oDMTM2aWJoN2tnBF9TAzk3M= zU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQ5OTkxOTQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NzY0BG1zZ0lkAzE0NzQ4BHNlYwNm= dHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQ4NTkwNTk2MwR0cGNJZAMxNDc0MA--" style=3D"text-dec= oration: none; color: #2D50FD;">Messages in this topic</a> (9) </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 <div id=3D"megaphoneModule"> <hr style=3D"height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; backgr= ound-color:#E3E3E3;"> <div> <div class=3D"stream" style=3D"margin-bottom:10px;"> <div style=3D"background-color:white;"> <div class=3D"sn-img" style=3D"display:inline;"><img name=3D"tn= _file" style=3D"padding:0px 10px;vertical-align:top;margin-top:5px;" src=3D= "https://s.yimg.com/ru/static/images/yg/img/megaphone/1464031581_phpFA8bON"= height=3D"82" width=3D"82"></div> <div class=3D"mod-txt" style=3D"display:inline-block;"> <a rel=3D"nofollow" name=3D"sub_url" target=3D"_blank" href= =3D"https://yho.com/1wwmgg" style=3D"color:#0000FF;display:block;margin-lef= t:5px;text-decoration:none;"><span style=3D"font-size:15px;">Have you tried= the highest rated email app?</span></a> <div style=3D"max-width:530px;padding:2px 5px;">With 4.5 st= ars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the mar= ket. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, = Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000G= B of free cloud storage.</div> </div> </div> </div> </div>=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20 <hr style=3D"height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-col= or:#E3E3E3;"> </div> <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <div id=3D"ygrp-grfd" style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; p= adding: 15px 0;"> =20=20=20=20=20=20 <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> Archives up to December 31, 2011 are also downloadable at <a href=3D"= http://www.connettivo.net/cntprojects/ocaml_beginners">http://www.connettiv= o.net/cntprojects/ocaml_beginners</a><BR> The archives of the very official ocaml list (the seniors' one) can be foun= d at <a href=3D"http://caml.inria.fr">http://caml.inria.fr</a><BR> Attachments are banned and you're asked to be polite, avoid flames etc. = =20=20 <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> </div> =20=20 =20 <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id=3D"ygrp-vital" style=3D"background-color: #f2f2f2; font-family: Ver= dana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id=3D"vithd" style=3D"font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transf= orm: uppercase; "><a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ocaml_begi= nners/info;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJlMWlvb2EyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQ5OTkxOTQEZ3Jwc= 3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NzY0BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTQ4NTkwNTk2Mw--" style= =3D"text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a></span> <ul style=3D"list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: in= line;"> </ul> </div> <div id=3D"ft" style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5p= x; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJkZmNkMWQwBF9TAzk3ND= c2NTkwBGdycElkAzQ5OTkxOTQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NzY0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzd= GltZQMxNDg1OTA1OTYz" style=3D"float: left;"><img src=3D"http://l.yimg.com/r= u/static/images/yg/img/email/new_logo/logo-groups-137x15.png" height=3D"15"= width=3D"137" alt=3D"Yahoo! Groups" style=3D"border: 0;"/></a> <div style=3D"color: #747575; float: right;"> • <a href=3D"https://i= nfo.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html" style=3D"text-decoratio= n: none;">Privacy</a> • <a href=3D"mailto:ocaml_beginners-unsubscribe@= yahoogroups.com?subject=3DUnsubscribe" style=3D"text-decoration: none;">Uns= ubscribe</a> • <a href=3D"https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/t= erms/" style=3D"text-decoration: none;">Terms of Use</a> </div> </div> <br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> </div> <!-- ygrp-msg --> =20 <!-- Sponsor --> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id=3D"ygrp-sponsor" style=3D"width:160px; float:right; clear:none; m= argin:0 0 25px 0; background: #fff;"> <!-- Start Recommendations --> <div id=3D"ygrp-reco"> </div> <!-- End Recommendations --> </div> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <div style=3D"clear:both; color: #FFF; font-size:1px;">.</div> </div> <img src=3D"http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=3D97359714/grpId=3D4999194/grpspI= d=3D1705006764/msgId=3D14748/stime=3D1485905963" width=3D"1" height=3D"1"> = <br> <img src=3D"http://y.analytics.yahoo.com/fpc.pl?ywarid=3D515FB27823A7407E&a= =3D10001310322279&js=3Dno&resp=3Dimg&cf12=3DCP" width=3D"1" height=3D"1">=20 <div style=3D"color: #fff; height: 0;">__,_._,___</div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEnd|**|-~--> </body> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <head> <style type=3D"text/css"> <!-- #ygrp-mkp { border: 1px solid #d8d8d8; font-family: Arial; margin: 10px 0; padding: 0 10px; } #ygrp-mkp hr { border: 1px solid #d8d8d8; } #ygrp-mkp #hd { color: #628c2a; font-size: 85%; font-weight: 700; line-height: 122%; margin: 10px 0; } #ygrp-mkp #ads { margin-bottom: 10px; } #ygrp-mkp .ad { padding: 0 0; } #ygrp-mkp .ad p { margin: 0; } #ygrp-mkp .ad a { color: #0000ff; text-decoration: none; } #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc { font-family: Arial; } #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd { margin: 10px 0px; font-weight: 700; font-size: 78%; line-height: 122%; } #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad { margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 0 0; } #actions { font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11px; padding: 10px 0; } #activity { background-color: #e0ecee; float: left; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; padding: 10px; } #activity span { font-weight: 700; } #activity span:first-child { text-transform: uppercase; } #activity span a { color: #5085b6; text-decoration: none; } #activity span span { color: #ff7900; } #activity span .underline { text-decoration: underline; } .attach { clear: both; display: table; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; padding: 10px 0; width: 400px; } .attach div a { text-decoration: none; } .attach img { border: none; padding-right: 5px; } .attach label { display: block; margin-bottom: 5px; } .attach label a { text-decoration: none; } =20=20 blockquote { margin: 0 0 0 4px; } .bold { font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px; font-weight: 700; } .bold a { text-decoration: none; } dd.last p a { font-family: Verdana; font-weight: 700; } dd.last p span { margin-right: 10px; font-family: Verdana; font-weight: 700; } dd.last p span.yshortcuts { margin-right: 0; } div.attach-table div div a { text-decoration: none; } div.attach-table { width: 400px; } div.file-title a, div.file-title a:active, div.file-title a:hover, div.fi= le-title a:visited { text-decoration: none; } div.photo-title a, div.photo-title a:active, div.photo-title a:hover, div= .photo-title a:visited { text-decoration: none; } div#ygrp-mlmsg #ygrp-msg p a span.yshortcuts { font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; font-weight: normal; } .green { color: #628c2a; } .MsoNormal { margin: 0 0 0 0; } o { font-size: 0; } #photos div { float: left; width: 72px; } #photos div div { border: 1px solid #666666; height: 62px; overflow: hidden; width: 62px; } #photos div label { color: #666666; font-size: 10px; overflow: hidden; text-align: center; white-space: nowrap; width: 64px; } #reco-category { font-size: 77%; } #reco-desc { font-size: 77%; } .replbq { margin: 4px; } #ygrp-actbar div a:first-child { /* border-right: 0px solid #000;*/ margin-right: 2px; padding-right: 5px; } #ygrp-mlmsg { font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, helvetica,clean, sans-serif; *font-size: small; *font: x-small; } #ygrp-mlmsg table { font-size: inherit; font: 100%; } #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea { font: 99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; } #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code { font:115% monospace; *font-size:100%; } #ygrp-mlmsg * { line-height: 1.22em; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo { padding-bottom: 10px; } #ygrp-msg p a { font-family: Verdana; } #ygrp-msg p#attach-count span { color: #1E66AE; font-weight: 700; } #ygrp-reco #reco-head { color: #ff7900; font-weight: 700; } #ygrp-reco { margin-bottom: 20px; padding: 0px; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a { font-size: 130%; text-decoration: none; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov li { font-size: 77%; list-style-type: square; padding: 6px 0; }=20 #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 8px; } #ygrp-text { font-family: Georgia; } #ygrp-text p { margin: 0 0 1em 0; } #ygrp-text tt { font-size: 120%; } #ygrp-vital ul li:last-child { border-right: none !important;=20 }=20 --> </style> </head> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEnd|**|-~--> </html> <!-- end group email --> --001a113a14d0c8559805476c70f8--