[Boston.pm] Of Strawberry, DWIM, and Chocolate Re: Dwim perl and padre?

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Shlomi Fish <[email protected]> wrote:

> chocolatey is a package manager for windows, similar to
> apt/yum/dnf/pacman/etc.
> for Linux - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NuGet#Chocolatey and it is
> not
> specific to perl. It allows one to install a strawberry perl package, which
> should be the same as the one from http://strawberryperl.com/ .


​Ok, that Nougat pun is bad enough i'm sorry i asked ! ​

​I was apparently confounding the name of the package manager with the old
Strawberry flavor  https://metacpan.org/pod/Perl::Dist::Chocolate , no  -y
.

Googling my own answer,
alias (Adam Kennedy) eoy2007 "Vanilla and Strawberry (and Chocolate) Perl
2008 Plans <http://use.perl.org/use.perl.org/article0ed4.html>"

> This class of user is going to want/need a richer, bloatier distribution,
> with GUIs for most functionality, and a large "core library" of modules
> available out of the box. As an environment it needs to be far more
> approachable.
>
> I've previously called this concept "Chocolate Perl", and it can be
> loosely defined as being "Strawberry + Modules + GUI Tools".
>

​and bdf 2014 https://www.windowsperl.com/2014/01/10/strawberry-perl/

> The January 2009 [Strawberry Perl] release added a fully portable “Perl on
> a stick” version that included a Perl program to fix up paths based on
> where it was installed.
>
> Strawberry Perl was supposed to lead to Chocolate Perl, something enhanced
> even further for people who were familiar with Windows but not Perl. It
> would include GUI tools and other niceties to avoid the command line (See
> Vanilla and Strawberry (and Chocolate) Perl 2008 Plans).
>
> The Strawberry brand was enough for most people. In 2010 Curtis Jewell
> created “Strawberry Perl Professional” as an enhanced distribution with big
> frameworks, such as Catalyst, and task oriented sets of modules, such as
> BioPerl. There are other distributions built on top of Strawberry Perl,
> such as DWIM Perl, that add GUI tools.
>
​
​So it sounds like DWIM Perl ​was a resurrection of Chocolate that stalled
more recently (2012, Perl 5.14) but still stalled. (​Even bdf's win-perl
blog https://www.windowsperl.com/ is stuck in 2016.)

So yes, it does look like Strawberry Perl (direct with choice of MSI, ZIP,
Portable Perl-on-a-Stick, or PDL; or via Chocolatey) is the only 5.26
choice for Windows (besides build from source): no bundled gui nor
monster-module-list.

[ Although one might presume the commercial/community "freemium" ActivePerl
will update from 5.24 soon ?   ActiveState at least has (had, i presume
still has) a package manager so many things not installed initially are
easier to add than CPAN via Windows. ]

One could take a list of what modules DWIM and Chocolate layered on (if
only by dumping your DWIM lib ) and use local::lib and/or cpanm to install
them (provided you have the matching mingw compiler for anything fancy).

( I do like that Strawberry offers a PDL Perl alternative install. )



-- 
Bill Ricker
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