Etoys Club Update

Jeremy Landry <[email protected]> Sun, 1 Apr 2018 01:40:55 -0700
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Hey, been working on consolidating a lot of demos I've been building the
past 6 months into the final presentation. I had already built a
'framework' to put them in, but found out that I should build from the
middle outward rather than the outward in, when it comes to presentation
aspects and having something that's lean and loads/saves quickly (before I
completely restarted what you see this afternoon, it took about 45 minutes
to save a 12 MB file and reload to edit again...if you'r elike me and
worried something could crash at any moment and save frequently as a
result, this is no good!)...

This also allowed me to really get to brass tacks about how to organize and
set the feel of the project (which, if anyone is familiar with PC98 games,
this stuff might feel familiar as that's how this project is largely being
treated to really 'show off' what Etoys is good at rather than reminding
people it can't make God of War III).

Here's a couple of screenshots to check out or you can just grab the
project that works on vanilla etoys 5.  There's about 4 or 5 more demos to
include and the first page will actually be the 'game' you use to explore
the demos in a zelda-like map and RPG-like character interactions (there's
a reason this format was chosen: the story is about a computer user who
goes 'back to low-fidelia', fed up with modern computer normacy, such as
DLC, data tracking, etc...they remember the castle in low-fidelia being
super cool but for some reason the castle is locked, and so they go look
for answers to get into it, but end up finding locals don't care or don't
even notice the castle is closed because they're all super into doing cool
stuff with Etoys...then in the final revelation, the 'game' kicks the
'player' back out to the default etoys home screen, except the car talks
directly to the player, telling them the castle was always unlocked; you
just had to right click it to explore it and that really, etoys is their
castle and kingdom and world to build in any way they see fit and that the
denizens of lowfidelia didn't care about the castle because they were busy
making their own; the blacksmith makes tools because that's his thing he
likes doing, the magician was interested in strange graphical tricks, and
that there was no one making games because there's more to computing than
games once you start taking control of them, etc. etc.)

So that's the direction that's solidifying and things are coming together
quite fast now that I've experienced (hopefully) most of the roadblocks of
doing a larger scale project in Etoys. It's been quite a learning
experience and despite some of the setbacks, Etoys does let you rebound and
salvage things very quickly...again, everything you see was literally built
today in about 8 hours, which included 'fixing' literally every script that
came into it (for some reason Etoys wouldn't always properly duplicate
relationships when a Playfield with variety of things into this project via
dropping it into a project thumbnail), and the main screen graphics,
formatting of the previously made demos is included in that time.  I
thought it would be days to get this far starting over, but nope...just a
couple of hours.  It taught me that at any point in time, whatever I'm
working on should be considered a 'sketch' of the final product until I
decide it works right; just like drawing, a good piece has a lot of
'crumpled paper' you normally don't see, all of the things tried before
settling on the final picture; Etoys definitely works this way at least for
me.

Anyway, here's screenshots and the project for people who like them.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wS4dM4myEN0KEV8xVQHG0bZMWJpZTq2M/view?usp=sharing
<--project (around 4MB)

https://imgur.com/a/fWWaK <-- screenshots

Thanks for checking it out and comments/ critique/issues welcome.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hey, been working on consolidating a lot of demos I&#39;ve=
 been building the past 6 months into the final presentation. I had already=
 built a &#39;framework&#39; to put them in, but found out that I should bu=
ild from the middle outward rather than the outward in, when it comes to pr=
esentation aspects and having something that&#39;s lean and loads/saves qui=
ckly (before I completely restarted what you see this afternoon, it took ab=
out 45 minutes to save a 12 MB file and reload to edit again...if you&#39;r=
 elike me and worried something could crash at any moment and save frequent=
ly as a result, this is no good!)...<div><br></div><div>This also allowed m=
e to really get to brass tacks about how to organize and set the feel of th=
e project (which, if anyone is familiar with PC98 games, this stuff might f=
eel familiar as that&#39;s how this project is largely being treated to rea=
lly &#39;show off&#39; what Etoys is good at rather than reminding people i=
t can&#39;t make God of War III).=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Here=
&#39;s a couple of screenshots to check out or you can just grab the projec=
t that works on vanilla etoys 5.=C2=A0 There&#39;s about 4 or 5 more demos =
to include and the first page will actually be the &#39;game&#39; you use t=
o explore the demos in a zelda-like map and RPG-like character interactions=
 (there&#39;s a reason this format was chosen: the story is about a compute=
r user who goes &#39;back to low-fidelia&#39;, fed up with modern computer =
normacy, such as DLC, data tracking, etc...they remember the castle in low-=
fidelia being super cool but for some reason the castle is locked, and so t=
hey go look for answers to get into it, but end up finding locals don&#39;t=
 care or don&#39;t even notice the castle is closed because they&#39;re all=
 super into doing cool stuff with Etoys...then in the final revelation, the=
 &#39;game&#39; kicks the &#39;player&#39; back out to the default etoys ho=
me screen, except the car talks directly to the player, telling them the ca=
stle was always unlocked; you just had to right click it to explore it and =
that really, etoys is their castle and kingdom and world to build in any wa=
y they see fit and that the denizens of lowfidelia didn&#39;t care about th=
e castle because they were busy making their own; the blacksmith makes tool=
s because that&#39;s his thing he likes doing, the magician was interested =
in strange graphical tricks, and that there was no one making games because=
 there&#39;s more to computing than games once you start taking control of =
them, etc. etc.)</div><div><br></div><div>So that&#39;s the direction that&=
#39;s solidifying and things are coming together quite fast now that I&#39;=
ve experienced (hopefully) most of the roadblocks of doing a larger scale p=
roject in Etoys. It&#39;s been quite a learning experience and despite some=
 of the setbacks, Etoys does let you rebound and salvage things very quickl=
y...again, everything you see was literally built today in about 8 hours, w=
hich included &#39;fixing&#39; literally every script that came into it (fo=
r some reason Etoys wouldn&#39;t always properly duplicate relationships wh=
en a Playfield with variety of things into this project via dropping it int=
o a project thumbnail), and the main screen graphics, formatting of the pre=
viously made demos is included in that time.=C2=A0 I thought it would be da=
ys to get this far starting over, but nope...just a couple of hours.=C2=A0 =
It taught me that at any point in time, whatever I&#39;m working on should =
be considered a &#39;sketch&#39; of the final product until I decide it wor=
ks right; just like drawing, a good piece has a lot of &#39;crumpled paper&=
#39; you normally don&#39;t see, all of the things tried before settling on=
 the final picture; Etoys definitely works this way at least for me.</div><=
div><br></div><div>Anyway, here&#39;s screenshots and the project for peopl=
e who like them.</div><div><a href=3D"https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wS4d=
M4myEN0KEV8xVQHG0bZMWJpZTq2M/view?usp=3Dsharing">https://drive.google.com/f=
ile/d/1wS4dM4myEN0KEV8xVQHG0bZMWJpZTq2M/view?usp=3Dsharing</a> &lt;--projec=
t (around 4MB)<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://imgur.com/a/=
fWWaK">https://imgur.com/a/fWWaK</a> &lt;-- screenshots<br></div><div><br><=
/div><div>Thanks for checking it out and comments/ critique/issues welcome.=
=C2=A0</div><div><br></div></div>

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