Re: Strongtalk from scratch

No, all you would need to build the VM is a C++ compiler.

The code would be generated by the VM's internal assembler at runtime
(look at assembler.hpp & friends)

The assembly files are temporary, conversion to code generation wasn't
complete when the project was put to a halt.
You can look at InterpreterGenerator in interpreter/interpreter.cpp
and StubRoutines (code/stubRoutines.hpp/cpp) to see how the code
generation works.

All i'm going to do is fill the blanks...

regards,
prunedtree

On Apr 12, 3:57 am, "SmallSqueak" <[email protected]> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "prunedtree" <[email protected]>
> To: "Strongtalk-general" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Strongtalk from scratch
>
> > Did you port it already ? if you haven't, i can help you remove all
> > dependencies on inline/external assembly.
> > After all we have a macro assembler in the VM, so we should use it
> > (that's what hotspot does too btw)
>
> > I'll start by getting rid of the COFF files for the win32 build. As i
> > said before, it's something fun to do.
>
> > prunedtree
>
>     But then will you need a running Strongtalk VM + image to build the VM?
>     Or did I miss something?
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     SmallSqueak
>
> > On Apr 11, 3:48 pm, "Dave Raymer" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> As I understand it, the situation is this:
>
> >> Images cannot yet be built from scratch.  Apparently there is still some
> >> voodoo in this space that Dave Griswold is working on.
>
> >> "Trunk Build VM " -- can be built from scratch only if you have a copy of
> >> Turbo Assembler from Borland, otherwise you need M$ Visual Studio, and
> >> you
> >> use the pre-provided COFF obj files
>
> >> There is a patch in the mailing archive that enables you to build the VM
> >> with MinGW under Windows, again using the COFF obj files provided by
> >> Thiago
>
> >> I am working on a "pure" linux port of the VM and having much fun with
> >> the
> >> assembler which someone else noted should be trivial to port -- I bow to
> >> his
> >> skills if to him, this is trivial.
>
> >> regards,
> >>    the other Dave.
>
> >> On 4/10/07, SmallSqueak <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> >        > > Does anyone know the status of "building strongtalk from
> >> > scratch" ?
>
> >> >        > What do you mean by "building smalltalk from scratch"?
> >> >        > Are you talking about building an image or the VM or both?
>
> >> >        > regards,
> >> >        >   the other Dave
>
> >> >        That should be both the VM and the image.
>
> >> >        The VM can already be built from scratch, can't it.
>
> >> >        Cheers,
>
> >> >        SmallSqueak
>
> >> --
> >> A man's greatest treasure is his wife, she is a gift from the Lord
> >> - Proverbs 18:22


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