Re: Strongtalk from scratch

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "prunedtree" <[email protected]>
To: "Strongtalk-general" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 4:29 AM
Subject: Re: Strongtalk from scratch


>
> No, all you would need to build the VM is a C++ compiler.
>
> The code would be generated by the VM's internal assembler at runtime
> (look at assembler.hpp & friends)
>
> The assembly files are temporary, conversion to code generation wasn't
> complete when the project was put to a halt.

    Thanks for the enlightenment, and what a relief to know that you don't 
need
    a running VM and image AND C++ to produce a VM!

> You can look at InterpreterGenerator in interpreter/interpreter.cpp
> and StubRoutines (code/stubRoutines.hpp/cpp) to see how the code
> generation works.
>

    Thanks. I will when I know how to build Strongtalk image from scratch.
    I hate to become an image beggar ;-)

> All i'm going to do is fill the blanks...
>

    Please do so and keep the list informed.

> regards,
> prunedtree
>

    Cheers,

    SmallSqueak


> On Apr 12, 3:57 am, "SmallSqueak" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "prunedtree" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Strongtalk-general" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: Strongtalk from scratch
>>
>> > Did you port it already ? if you haven't, i can help you remove all
>> > dependencies on inline/external assembly.
>> > After all we have a macro assembler in the VM, so we should use it
>> > (that's what hotspot does too btw)
>>
>> > I'll start by getting rid of the COFF files for the win32 build. As i
>> > said before, it's something fun to do.
>>
>> > prunedtree
>>
>>     But then will you need a running Strongtalk VM + image to build the 
>> VM?
>>     Or did I miss something?
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>
>>     SmallSqueak
>>
>> > On Apr 11, 3:48 pm, "Dave Raymer" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> As I understand it, the situation is this:
>>
>> >> Images cannot yet be built from scratch.  Apparently there is still 
>> >> some
>> >> voodoo in this space that Dave Griswold is working on.
>>
>> >> "Trunk Build VM " -- can be built from scratch only if you have a copy 
>> >> of
>> >> Turbo Assembler from Borland, otherwise you need M$ Visual Studio, and
>> >> you
>> >> use the pre-provided COFF obj files
>>
>> >> There is a patch in the mailing archive that enables you to build the 
>> >> VM
>> >> with MinGW under Windows, again using the COFF obj files provided by
>> >> Thiago
>>
>> >> I am working on a "pure" linux port of the VM and having much fun with
>> >> the
>> >> assembler which someone else noted should be trivial to port -- I bow 
>> >> to
>> >> his
>> >> skills if to him, this is trivial.
>>
>> >> regards,
>> >>    the other Dave.
>>
>> >> On 4/10/07, SmallSqueak <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> >        > > Does anyone know the status of "building strongtalk from
>> >> > scratch" ?
>>
>> >> >        > What do you mean by "building smalltalk from scratch"?
>> >> >        > Are you talking about building an image or the VM or both?
>>
>> >> >        > regards,
>> >> >        >   the other Dave
>>
>> >> >        That should be both the VM and the image.
>>
>> >> >        The VM can already be built from scratch, can't it.
>>
>> >> >        Cheers,
>>
>> >> >        SmallSqueak
>>


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