Re: VW 9.0 and the Mac M1?

The 8.3 PUL is obsolete not only in terms of VW, but obsolete in terms of
software development in general.

GIT - the worldwide industry standard for version control.  Not implemented.
MongoDB - the worldwide industry standard for Document databases.  Not
implemented.
RegEx - the worldwide industry standard for handling and processing text.
Not implemented.

The last two are available as "add-ons" but if you have a problem, you
can't open a ticket with Cincom.  "They're not part of the product, they're
add-ons.  But look at how productive Smalltalk is!  You can build your own
GIT or RegEx interface if you want!"




On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 11:25 AM <[email protected]> wrote:

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> The odd thing is that PUL should equal current release  minus stuff we
> don’t want you to have cuz we think you are going to run with it and not
> pay us stuff, but what I don’t get is what is so hard about that ? or how
> air tight does it need to be ?
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> I remember James Robertson (RIP)  voicing issues with the changes to the
> PUL program that were being contemplated at the time, maybe he understood
> where that was headed and how contrary to fostering adoption it would be.
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> The PUL is indeed DEAD, just change it to a subscription model of for
> example less than 100.00 bucks per year with a cap on revenues before it
> crosses into the royalty % of revenue current model.
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> This will seed small biz , single to small shop entrepreneurs.
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> Drop spending cycles on maintaining a PUL for which its obvious does not
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> *From:* Thomas Sattler <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 08, 2021 11:06 AM
> *To:* Steffen Märcker <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [vwnc] VW 9.0 and the Mac M1?
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> The PUL is still 8.3, which is about five years old.
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> Since 8.3 came out, these versions have been released:
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> 9.0.0
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> 9.0.1
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> So the PUL program is SIX VERSIONS OLD.  My understanding of Cincom's
> support model, is that once 9.2 is released next Spring, the 8.3 series
> will go out of support.  It should be obvious to anyone who is looking at
> this, that the PUL program is either dead, or close to it.  Either way, PUL
> is not a priority for them any more.  "If you want to try VW, you can use
> this soon to be unsupported version that's five years old.  You can't have
> anything newer than that."  Can you imagine ANY software company saying
> that?  Five years is an eternity in the software field.
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> --Tom
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> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 2:39 AM Steffen Märcker <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Hi!
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> Customer release or PUL? The latter is still not supporting newer MacOS
> versions and Cincom did not provide any updates on when a new PUL version
> will be released. If your's is not PUL, I'd like to ask how it runs on
> recent Intel Macs in general.
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> Best,
> Steffen
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