Re: Re: Rails <-> BC conversion

Jeff Lindsay <[email protected]> Sun, 31 Jul 2005 03:41:24 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.comp.lib.binarycloud.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Also take a look at Nitro, another big Ruby framework. It's not as
popular as Rails, but I believe it's designed much better. It's also
somewhat Rails compatible and integrates with other frameworks in
Ruby. It's model package, Og, is a lot better than ActiveRecord and
takes much better advantage of the Ruby language.

Take a look sometime...
http://nitrohq.com

On 7/18/05, alex black <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I've just skipped over the bc list where you said something about
> > porting some of bc's ideas to Ruby. I'd be generally interested in
> > this topic (though I don't hab much time at the moment because of some
> > freaking exams).
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> Things I would like to port to rails:
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>         -your bc RBAC with a full user management application
>         -form utilities and ideas
>         -some l8n and il8n ideas and possibly code
>         -some of our debugging ideas
>         -possibly a more formal filtering + validation framework
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> > I've have a look over Ruby in general by the free edition of the
> > Pragmatic Babbler's book at http://www.rubycentral.com/book/ ;)
> >
> > After all, Ruby's syntax seems elegant, but not very clear and concise
> > - There's more than one way to do it (screw it up like in Perl:
> > http://www.ta-sa.org/images/perl6.gif). However, Ruby seems to be more
> > straightforward than most I've seen anywhere else.
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> I think it's very nice ;) - I think python and ruby are two different
> paths with equal merits.
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> django is interesting for py: http://www.djangoproject.com/
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> but it has an ego problem (being second-hat to rails) and I think the
> framework design is not as clean, though I do like their template stuff
> because it looks like smarty, which I like ;)
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> > So, let me know about your ideas and maybe about your evaluation of
> > the Ruby and Rails platform. What is there? How good is their stuff?
> > What's their stuff exactly from a birds/rocket/next galaxis
> > perspective?
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> I think ruby is an excellent language, I'm not convinced that it's any
> better than python, though - but rails _is_ a killer app. I haven't
> seen anything better.
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> That said, rails is missing some stuff (which is better than it having
> bad implementations) so I'd like to port stuff over.
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> ;)
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