Re: Fox toolkit future?

On 6/25/23 08:50, Enno Rehling wrote:
>> In my opinon, using GNU autotools is the most portable way. cmake is 
>> such a
>> pain to use on systems which are not exactly mainstream, not to speak of
>> systems to where it's not ported yet or using a compiler which it knows
>> nothing about.
>
> Are these systems really actively supported? When was the last time 
> somebody compiled Fox on Sequent DYNIX or an Itanium system? Are those 
> users likely to upgrade from 1.6 to a new stable?
>
> Enno. 

Never heard of Sequent DUNIX, but DEC Alpha and Itanium systems are 
still in production use around the world. Most of them are running 
VMS/OpenVMS but the installation page has instructions for building with 
DEC cxx which this can run on OpenVMS, Tru64, OSF1, Ultrix, and Linux on 
those platforms.

Is FOX in actual production use on any of those machines? I don't know. 
Those running nuclear power plants around the world couldn't tell us. As 
to the steel, aluminum, paper, and other mills all running OpenVMS on 
DEC hardware, I couldn't tell you.

OpenVMS is currently being ported to x86. Oh, has been ported.

https://vmssoftware.com

Last I heard it was supposed to be a "server only" OS when ported there 
so it could run in VMs like Hypervisor. Spent my first twenty years 
mostly on that platform and wrote a book about it.

https://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com/app_book.html

Haven't followed it in the past decade or so where I've been developing 
medical devices.


XP and even Windows 7 are rather sticky wickets.

Despite Microsoft claiming to have ceased all support for both of these 
platforms, I have one Windows 7 machine in use by a family member still 
getting updates. More importantly, a huge number of hospitals/doctors 
offices/medical facilities still to this day have medical records 
systems running on XP and/or Windows 7, in America at least. There is no 
way Homeland Security will allow Microsoft to completely cease support 
for either platform until all of those facilities have been migrated. 
It's almost impossible to migrate in-place when you have Emergency Rooms 
and Surgical Centers because one cannot predict when the next 
catastrophe will suddenly have you overrun.

Do I have first hand knowledge of any of these facilities having 
anything written in FOX? No.



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