Re: High DPI support / Wayland support

Roland Hughes via Foxgui-users <[email protected]> Sun, 3 May 2026 17:09:10 -0500
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Per Google's AI

While many major Linux distributions are shifting to *Wayland* as the 
default, several remain committed to *X11* for the foreseeable future, 
either by default or as a fully supported fallback.[1 
<https://goteleport.com/blog/x11-forwarding/>, 2 
<https://oneuptime.com/blog/post/2026-03-02-setup-wayland-vs-x11-display-server-ubuntu/view>, 
3 <https://rci.stonybrook.edu/HPC/docs/accounts/x11-forwarding>, 4 
<https://www.phoronix.com/news/Mutter-Optional-XWayland>, 5 
<https://www.xda-developers.com/phoenix-keep-x-server-ball-rolling/>]
Distributions Defaulting to or Prioritizing X11[1 
<https://thenewstack.io/ubuntu-25-10-scraps-x11-for-wayland-a-solid-step-forward/>]

  * *Linux Mint*: Known for its conservative approach, Mint 22 continues
    to use *X11 (Cinnamon)* as its default. While they have introduced
    an experimental Wayland session, the development team prioritizes
    the stability of X11 for its flagship experience.
  * *Slackware & CRUX*: These "minimalist" and veteran distributions are
    often cited as the most likely to maintain X11 support indefinitely
    due to their philosophy of sticking with proven, traditional
    Unix-like technologies.
  * *Mageia*: Mageia 9 still ships with *KDE Plasma 5* and *X11* as the
    out-of-the-box experience.
  * *Debian (Stable)*: While Debian 12 (Bookworm) uses Wayland by
    default for GNOME, it maintains robust X11 support for all
    environments. Users can expect X11 to remain available in Debian's
    stable repositories through approximately 2030–2032 due to long-term
    support cycles.
  * *Arch Linux*: Because Arch is user-configured, it does not force a
    default; it remains a top choice for users who want to manually set
    up and stay on X11 environments like *i3wm* or *Openbox*.[1
    <https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmint/comments/1l16i2p/will_linux_mint_remain_with_x11_or_lean_to_wayland/>,
    2 <https://www.linuxteck.com/x11-vs-wayland/>, 3
    <https://www.makeuseof.com/linux-mint-finally-fixed-its-wayland-problem-game-changer/>,
    4
    <https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/which-distro-will-always-keep-x11-and-not-replace-it-by-wayland-4175608526/>,
    5
    <https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/1ed7xmz/does_a_distro_with_kde_on_x11_exist/>,
    6 <https://wiki.debian.org/Wayland>, 7
    <https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/1pgp4p6/desktop_environment_for_incoming_years_x11/>]

The problem with Wayland . . . is it sucks. They tried for "One Ring To 
Rule Them All" without watching the Lord of the Rings movies to see how 
that turned out. There was absolutely no reason to force their virtual 
reality N-dimensional vision onto a desktop. You can't even save an 
application window position and reopen it in the same place. People been 
used to that since GUI DOS (Windows prior to NT).

As an embedded systems person in the medical device world I can tell you 
that XWayland sh*t don't work! It's a rental car company's definition of 
"full sized."

On 5/3/26 8:57 AM, Enno Rehling wrote:
> Since there's been renewed discussion about the future of X11 (on the 
> Mac and elsewhere), it might be time to revisit the question of FOX on 
> Wayland? Pretty much all the major Linux distros seem to be abandoning 
> X11 desktops, or at least adopting a Wayland-First philosophy.
>
> Enno.
>
> On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 at 18:15, Roland Plüss via Foxgui-users 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     What are the plans for supporting high DPI displays (4k) displays and
>     wayland?
>
>     I've used FOX right now on X11 with a regular 1980 monitor but now I
>     want to also support it on a newer 4k monitor with HDR support. 4k
>     requires global scaling to be respected (typically 150-200% for
>     4k). HDR
>     requires wayland to be used. It would be nice to know if these
>     features
>     are planed for the future or not.
>
>
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      fully supported fallback.<span> [<a
          href="https://goteleport.com/blog/x11-forwarding/">1</a>, <a
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        <a
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        <a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Mutter-Optional-XWayland">4</a>,
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      Defaulting to or Prioritizing X11<span> [<a
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style="font-family: &quot;Google Sans&quot;, Roboto, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 600; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px none rgb(10, 10, 10);">Linux
              Mint</strong>: Known for its conservative approach, Mint
            22 continues to use <strong class="Yjhzub"
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style="font-family: &quot;Google Sans&quot;, Roboto, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 600; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px none rgb(10, 10, 10);">X11
              (Cinnamon)</strong> as its default. While they have
            introduced an experimental Wayland session, the development
            team prioritizes the stability of X11 for its flagship
            experience.</span></li>
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style="font-family: &quot;Google Sans&quot;, Roboto, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 600; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px none rgb(10, 10, 10);">Slackware
              &amp; CRUX</strong>: These "minimalist" and veteran
            distributions are often cited as the most likely to maintain
            X11 support indefinitely due to their philosophy of sticking
            with proven, traditional Unix-like technologies.</span></li>
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style="font-family: &quot;Google Sans&quot;, Roboto, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 600; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px none rgb(10, 10, 10);">Mageia</strong>:
            Mageia 9 still ships with <strong class="Yjhzub"
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style="font-family: &quot;Google Sans&quot;, Roboto, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 600; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px none rgb(10, 10, 10);">KDE
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style="font-family: &quot;Google Sans&quot;, Roboto, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 600; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px none rgb(10, 10, 10);">Debian
              (Stable)</strong>: While Debian 12 (Bookworm) uses Wayland
            by default for GNOME, it maintains robust X11 support for
            all environments. Users can expect X11 to remain available
            in Debian's stable repositories through approximately
            2030–2032 due to long-term support cycles.</span></li>
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style="font-family: &quot;Google Sans&quot;, Roboto, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 600; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px none rgb(10, 10, 10);">Arch
              Linux</strong>: Because Arch is user-configured, it does
            not force a default; it remains a top choice for users who
            want to manually set up and stay on X11 environments like <strong
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style="font-family: &quot;Google Sans&quot;, Roboto, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 600; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px none rgb(10, 10, 10);">i3wm</strong>
            or <strong class="Yjhzub" data-sfc-root="c" data-sfc-cb=""
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style="font-family: &quot;Google Sans&quot;, Roboto, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 600; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px none rgb(10, 10, 10);">Openbox</strong>.</span><span>
            [<a
href="https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmint/comments/1l16i2p/will_linux_mint_remain_with_x11_or_lean_to_wayland/">1</a>,
            <a href="https://www.linuxteck.com/x11-vs-wayland/">2</a>, <a
href="https://www.makeuseof.com/linux-mint-finally-fixed-its-wayland-problem-game-changer/">3</a>,
            <a
href="https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/which-distro-will-always-keep-x11-and-not-replace-it-by-wayland-4175608526/">4</a>,
            <a
href="https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/1ed7xmz/does_a_distro_with_kde_on_x11_exist/">5</a>,
            <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/Wayland">6</a>, <a
href="https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/1pgp4p6/desktop_environment_for_incoming_years_x11/">7</a>]</span></li>
      </ul>
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    <p>The problem with Wayland . . . is it sucks. They tried for "One
      Ring To Rule Them All" without watching the Lord of the Rings
      movies to see how that turned out. There was absolutely no reason
      to force their virtual reality N-dimensional vision onto a
      desktop. You can't even save an application window position and
      reopen it in the same place. People been used to that since GUI
      DOS (Windows prior to NT).</p>
    <p>As an embedded systems person in the medical device world I can
      tell you that XWayland sh*t don't work! It's a rental car
      company's definition of "full sized."</p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/3/26 8:57 AM, Enno Rehling wrote:<br>
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        <div>Since there's been renewed discussion about the future of
          X11 (on the Mac and elsewhere), it might be time to revisit
          the question of FOX on Wayland? Pretty much all the major
          Linux distros seem to be abandoning X11 desktops, or at least
          adopting a Wayland-First philosophy.</div>
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        <div>Enno.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 at 18:15,
          Roland Plüss via Foxgui-users &lt;<a
            href="mailto:[email protected]"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email protected]</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">What
          are the plans for supporting high DPI displays (4k) displays
          and <br>
          wayland?<br>
          <br>
          I've used FOX right now on X11 with a regular 1980 monitor but
          now I <br>
          want to also support it on a newer 4k monitor with HDR
          support. 4k <br>
          requires global scaling to be respected (typically 150-200%
          for 4k). HDR <br>
          requires wayland to be used. It would be nice to know if these
          features <br>
          are planed for the future or not.<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
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