Re: Canonical Psalm titles and SWORD search?

Hi David,

The usage of "acrostic" in this case is indeed semantically incorrect.

According to the OSIS specification, the correct markup for a psalm
canonical title is
<title type="psalm" canonical="true">
and it is perfectly allowed to occur before the first verse.
The crosswire wiki mentions that, in this case, sword requires an
additional attribute subType="x-preverse" on the title tag, though I'm not
sure what the purpose of this tag is and if it affects your issue with
searching.

As a side note, in many bibles, as you say, some psalm titles span several
verses, and therefore the OSIS spec allows <verse/> tags in the middle of a
psalm title - though currently sword does not support it because osis2mod
does not transform the <title> tag to milestoned form.

Regards,

Arnaud

Le mar. 28 janv. 2025, 13:12, David Haslam <dfhdfh-g/[email protected]> a écrit :

> Thanks John,
>
> *Aside*: I'm puzzled by the use of *type="acrostic"* when the 125 Psalms
> with canonical titles are nothing to do with acrostics, *per se*. Surely,
> that attribute should be reserved for the 22 stanza headings in Psalm 119 ?
>
> There are Alternative Versifications in which the canonical Psalm titles
> are assigned to verse 1 (or in a few cases to verses 1 & 2) with subsequent
> verse numbers being offset by +1 (or +2).
> I was not enquiring about modules that are for Bible versions like that.
>
> In the KJV and many other modules, the Psalm titles proper are *before*
> the start of verse 1.
>
> Best regards,
>
> David
>
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> On Tuesday, January 28th, 2025 at 11:17 AM, Johan Marais <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> David.
>
> In our translation I set Ps 6:1 as:
>
> And a ‘normal’ search in Xiphos 4.2.1 returns 7 results:
>
> Regards,
>
> Johan Marais
>
>
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> Haslam
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> Subject: [sword-devel] Canonical Psalm titles and SWORD search?
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>
>
> I just tried to search for the word 'Neginoth' using Xiphos.
>
>
>
> There were no results found!
>
>
>
> This word occurs in the canonical Psalm title for Ps.6 and five other
> Psalms.
>
>
>
> "To the chief Musician on Neginoth upon Sheminith, A Psalm of David."
>
>
>
> In view of the fact that canonical Psalm titles are translated from the
> original Hebrew, ought it not to be within the scope of SWORD search?
>
>
>
> Or is this merely a shortcoming of Xiphos?
>
>
>
> cf. Xiphos Advanced Search dialog allows search scope to look in
> footnotes, but there's no such option for titles.
>
>
>
> Of course, many Bible versions have non-canonical headings throughout the
> module, yet I'm not concerned with such in asking this question here.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> David
>
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