Re: [mh] DateTime::Locale

And I really value that approach of "works out of the box". Getting 
multiple perl modules to work can be a major PITA

Rick


On 12/21/2020 7:07 PM, Brian M wrote:
> Paul,
> 
> There's been much discussion in the past year about the MH philosophy of 
> including CPAN Perl modules in the distribution.  Essentially it came 
> out of an interest in having MH "just work" out of the box (e.g. not 
> require a lot of prereqs).  This lead to a number of cases where the 
> core MH worked, but user code used within MH didn't be the user code was 
> expecting newer versions of modules.
> 
> I undertook a task to move as many of them as I could to a new library 
> called "fallback", which I placed at the very end of the Perl include 
> library list so they would only be used as a last resort on systems that 
> had no newer versions.  I moved *lots*, but there were some that 
> appeared to have been "locally modified" (that is, by some possibly past 
> MH developer). These were no longer merely predecessors of current CPAN 
> versions, and I didn't feel I could safely move them without a lot more 
> study. Given the magnitude of the change I was making already (and has 
> generally worked quite well for quite a while now except for a batch of 
> files in bin I forgot to adjust), I decided not to try to add those into 
> the immediate task. Thus there are a few really old modules still living 
> in MH's base libraries instead of the fallback library. I don't have the 
> list of these not-quite-CPAN modules anymore, but Date::Locale sounds 
> like it fits the bill. If somebody wants to study it as to compared to 
> the current version and conclude that the current version is a drop-in 
> replacement for it, I'm completely fine with moving it to fallback. (Or, 
> someone else can decide to move them to fallback -- it doesn't have to 
> be just me.)
> 
> In short, MH supplies old versions that haven't been updated in a long 
> time out of a particular philosophical perspective. Recent work meant 
> that most of these old versions would be used only as a last resort, but 
> a few appear to have been modified and those still appear early in the 
> MH Perl include list. They can be moved to fallback if someone wants to 
> analyze them and determine that that is a safe thing to do.
> 
> -Brian M
> 
> On 12/21/20 3:00 PM, Paul Onley wrote:
>> After downloading the latest Master Branch to try working with the 
>> Tasmota code I ran into an error trying to start mh. During startup mh 
>> reports an error that DateTime::Locale 1.06 is required but that only 
>> 0.34 is available. I had a newer version installed in my perl libs but 
>> finally found that mh ships with 0.34 in lib/site/DateTime. I replaced 
>> that Locale.pm with the one in my perl libs and all is fine now. Is 
>> there a reason that mh ships with the rather old version?
>>
>>
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