Re: [mh] DateTime::Locale

Thanks again for your drive to modernize the library system Brian. This is the right approach, and mh master should just work ‘out of the box’. I have work to do this holiday season merging in my changes, and can test out date::locale, but may be a week or two. 

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> On Dec 21, 2020, at 5:08 PM, Brian M <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Paul,
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> There's been much discussion in the past year about the MH philosophy of including CPAN Perl modules in the distribution.  Essentially it came out of an interest in having MH "just work" out of the box (e.g. not require a lot of prereqs).  This lead to a number of cases where the core MH worked, but user code used within MH didn't be the user code was expecting newer versions of modules.
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> I undertook a task to move as many of them as I could to a new library called "fallback", which I placed at the very end of the Perl include library list so they would only be used as a last resort on systems that had no newer versions.  I moved *lots*, but there were some that appeared to have been "locally modified" (that is, by some possibly past MH developer). These were no longer merely predecessors of current CPAN versions, and I didn't feel I could safely move them without a lot more study. Given the magnitude of the change I was making already (and has generally worked quite well for quite a while now except for a batch of files in bin I forgot to adjust), I decided not to try to add those into the immediate task. Thus there are a few really old modules still living in MH's base libraries instead of the fallback library. I don't have the list of these not-quite-CPAN modules anymore, but Date::Locale sounds like it fits the bill. If somebody wants to study it as to compared to the current version and conclude that the current version is a drop-in replacement for it, I'm completely fine with moving it to fallback. (Or, someone else can decide to move them to fallback -- it doesn't have to be just me.)
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> In short, MH supplies old versions that haven't been updated in a long time out of a particular philosophical perspective. Recent work meant that most of these old versions would be used only as a last resort, but a few appear to have been modified and those still appear early in the MH Perl include list. They can be moved to fallback if someone wants to analyze them and determine that that is a safe thing to do.
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> -Brian M
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>> On 12/21/20 3:00 PM, Paul Onley wrote:
>> After downloading the latest Master Branch to try working with the Tasmota code I ran into an error trying to start mh. During startup mh reports an error that DateTime::Locale 1.06 is required but that only 0.34 is available. I had a newer version installed in my perl libs but finally found that mh ships with 0.34 in lib/site/DateTime. I replaced that Locale.pm with the one in my perl libs and all is fine now. Is there a reason that mh ships with the rather old version?
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