Re: [mh] The Post Insteon World

I think my biggest loss is going to be the KPL+FanLinc combo. I use them
everywhere to add fan + light control to a single gang (bedrooms, mostly)
and haven't found anything else like it.

Sure I could glue 3 different products together, but the Insteon stuff just
worked(TM) and didnt require the PLM or Pi or anything to be running for
basic operation. The wife factor of "Oh, you can't turn the fan on right
now because the RPi is rebooting" is very, very low.

On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 7:05 PM Marc MERLIN <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 11:44:29AM -0400, Dave Neudoerffer wrote:
> > I am hoping there will be "matter" devices available before too many of
> my
> > insteon devices die or I lose a PLM...
>
> Indeed, I'm not sure if anyone noticed that PLMs are now selling for
> hundreds of dollars on Ebay.
> I'm glad I bought a spare last time, knowing that they die every few
> years.
> Also, there are people selling a set of capacitors for them and in
> theory you can replace the capacitors and fix a PLM that stopped working
> ater the 2-3 years they used to last.
>
> I also have some amount of spare switches I bought, which will come in
> handy.
>
> My only issue with insteon is that I either have too many devices, or a
> weird configuration where I can't get MH to resync with my deployed
> setup and do a sync all links and delete orphans :-/
>
> Like others, I have may hours (100h+ for me) in the code that runs my
> house, so I'm not looking at swiching, but if I ever move, I'll have to
> start with something new.
>
> Marc
>
> > Dave
> >
> > On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 4:42 AM Giles Godart-Brown <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I moved away from X10 several years ago to LightwaveRF, but have now
> > > abandoned this too for WIfi based devices using Tasmota.
> > >
> > > Tasmota is open source software for the ESP8266 chips used in most of
> the
> > > wifi based switches and sensors.  There is a very active community with
> > > many videos on how to reflash  devices with Tasmota.  The MH Tasmota
> bridge
> > > works very reliably, but best of all, Tasmota devices run a web server
> so
> > > you can easily test if the device is in the state you think it should
> be.
> > > It also supports MQTT which has an excellent heartbeat mechanism, so
> you
> > > can very quickly find if a device goes offline.  The MH-MQTT interface
> > > works well, but you do have to have a machine running an MQTT broker
> e.g.
> > > Mosquitto (this runs fine on a PI even if its also running MH).
> > >
> > > I also have some Sonoff battery based devices (PIR, temp and humidity)
> > > these use an RF interface to the Sonoff-Tasmota Gateway that translates
> > > this to Wifi and MQTT which you can then use with MH.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Giles
> > >
> > >
> > > On 15/05/2022 17:17, Bruce Schaeffer wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm looking for suggestions on how to move forward in a "post Insteon"
> > > world.
> > >
> > > My own environment is a Raspberry Pi connected to a PowerLinc 2413U
> > > running Misterhouse. The end devices are a mix of Insteon with X10
> > > controllers. I "translate" X10 signals to Insteon commands within MH.
> > >
> > > The PLM and Raspberry PI are less than a year old. I had plans to
> purchase
> > > a backup PLM, but it didn't happen. I see now it's no longer an option.
> > >
> > > I would like to migrate from Insteon (and maybe X10) to something that
> is
> > > more modern; keeping MH on the Pi as the main "server".  My MH
> programming
> > > has more than 20 years of effort.
> > >
> > > I have read that MH is able to utilize technologies other than X10 and
> > > Insteon.
> > >
> > > What direction are you folks leaning towards that is able to be
> controlled
> > > with MH and is still in business?
> > >
> > > Please include hardware requirements for each suggested protocol so I
> can
> > > begin working on a budget.  If your suggestion is also able to run
> Insteon
> > > devices, all the better. I don't expect that to be the case since the
> > > Insteon protocol was proprietary.
> > >
> > > The optimum situation would be for me to first purchase whatever
> > > controller is needed for the new protocol (the device that would
> eventually
> > > replace the Insteon PLM), get it talking to MH. I'd like to think that
> MH
> > > would be able to talk to both PLMs.  Then I'd start purchasing end
> devices
> > > that would replace my existing Insteon end devices.
> > >
> > > Your suggestions would be very welcome.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > >
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