Re: Unknown Ringtone Format

I've done some more experimenting, and I've found a couple of things.

 

The numbers that make up the filename are the date that the file was
created.

 

Yymmddhhmmss

 

For instance, a file with a "date created" of November 14, 2005 at 7:17:14pm
would have the name 051114191714

 

I found this by browsing the phone's filesystem, and noticed the similarity
in filename and creation date.  The ringtones are in a directory name
mms_melody.  Does this mean they are in some kind of mms format?

 

I also opened the files using notepad on windows 7.  (I'll explain the OS
situation at the end) and found that each of the files has the name of the
ringtone in text at the beginning.  Then some more readable text, and
finally just random bytes that should be the midi sequence.

 

I don't know if attachments work on this list, but I'm attaching one of the
ringtone files as an example.  Filename: 41111220339

 

The OS situation:

I'm normally a Windows 7 user, and I've been toying with the idea of dual
booting my laptop.  When I received my phone cable, and found BITPIM I could
not find suitable drivers to connect to my phone.  Even using the drivers
directly from Samsung did not work, so I downloaded Ubuntu 10.10, and tried
to connect on that OS.  it worked!  I have a link between operating systems,
so I can save all of the files where I can read/edit them in Windows or
*nix.  In short, I can use advice/suggestions on either OS.

 

From: David Cook [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 9:41 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BitPim-user] Unknown Ringtone Format

 

I don't know the exact answer to your question, but maybe I can shed some
light?

Here's what I DO know:

When I go the OTHER direction, starting with a .MP3 file containing a
ringtone that I want

to transfer OUT to my phone with Bitpim, it seems to first 'convert' it from
the real .MP3 file,

over into one of those 'F00000004' files. (Which is almost exactly HALF the
size of the .MP3.)

 

To do that, I copy the .MP3 into the staging directory ...
/pitbim/ringtones/

but after I do that, it still does NOT show-up in Bitpim app until i first
right-click and choose 'add',

and then it allows me to select the actual .MP3 file there, and at that
point it EXPOSES it

with the filename 'myringtone.mp3', even tho in actual FACT, it first
converts it into one of those

funny-named extensionless files!

 

So, I'm assuming that it actually TRANSFERS the funny file (a container of
some sort, with the

actual . MP3 compressed inside it or something).

 

[I, too, am both a Linux user, (as well as Win-XP,Vista/Win-7)...have used
Kubuntu, but actually

slightly prefer MEPIS and sidux to *buntu.]  That said, what I'm describing
above is from using

the Vista-based Bitpim, rather than a Debian-family Bitpim.  Only reason I'm
doing that is because

I don't use a data-cable for my cellphone, but rather a Bluetooth-link, and
the Linux-based Bitpim's

don't seem to work well with bluetooth.  So, if you can stand playing with
Bitpim under XP/Vista/Win-7,

you might want to grab the Bitpim for one of those and see if that helps
shed light on your

question about what might be going on with how Bitpim re-packages
ringtones.]

 

Hope this helps...


Dave (aka 'cookdav' on MEPIS-Lovers forum)



On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Vince Schielack III
<[email protected]> wrote:

Equipment:

BITPIM: 1.0.7-Deb

OS: Ubuntu 10.10

Phone: Samsung A670

Cable: USB->Samsung  (3rd party)

Carrier: Verizon

 

Problem:

I am trying to get a ringtone off of an older phone into a format that I can
use.  Currently, I can connect to the phone just fine.  I can pull .jpg
images off of the phone which leads me to believe that the connection is
good a works correctly.  However, when I get ringtones from the phone, they
are in files with no extension.  The file names are just a string of
numbers, and I cannot find a way to play the tones.

 

The ringtones are polyphonic, and I think they should be in .midi format.  I
have tried to add an extension to the filename, but with no luck.  I've
tried .mid .midi .qcp .pmd .mmf   ...nothing has worked.

 

I've also imported the files into audacity as both midi and raw.  The midi
import does not do anything, and the raw format is just white noise, which
leads me to believe there is some kind of compression.

 

I cannot find anything describing the format that bitpim saves ringtones as.

 

Question (in short):

 

How do I save ringtones from my phone to my computer in a playable format
(.mid .mp3 .wav etc.)?


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