Re: (no subject)
"N4AOF" <[email protected]> Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:50:04 -0500
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============4564406597415177035== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01CDC572.15E1DE00" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01CDC572.15E1DE00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh yes, it is always =E2=80=9Csomeone else=E2=80=99s=E2=80=9D computer = that =E2=80=9Cgot hacked=E2=80=9D -- BS on both counts =E2=80=93 the = vast majority of these spam infestations come from the person either = getting malware on their computer or from the person having given away = their account information in response to phishing, fake sites, social = engineering, or harvesting programs that offer to = =E2=80=98consolidate=E2=80=99 all your mail accounts. The =E2=80=9Csomeone else=E2=80=99s computer=E2=80=9D story CAN = occasionally be true because some botnet malware does change the = =E2=80=9Cfrom=E2=80=9D address on the email (usually detectable in the = headers) but that is rare overall and the odds are nearly astronomical = in any closed mail list (like this one and Yahoo or Google Groups) = because the changed =E2=80=9Cfrom=E2=80=9D address would need to match = someone on the subscriber list. =20 Bottom line: When we see spam here, it almost certainly came from the = account shown in the From address and usually the individual is far from = blameless. In any case, regardless of who might be at fault, there is only one = reasonable response for the manager of any mail list =E2=80=93 once an = address is used to send spam to the group, the manager needs to remove = and ban that account from the list to prevent its use for continued = spamming of the list members. From: Joe=20 Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 03:37 AM To: [email protected]=20 Subject: Re: [BitPim-user] (no subject) Most of the time, somebody else got their computer hacked and all the = email addresses harvested and used without ever touching any of their = computers. Teach people to use BCC instead of CC or TO for mailings so = fewer addresses get unnecessarily propagated to vulnerable machines. On 11/17/2012 10:28 PM, Toby Fredrickson wrote: That happened to my Daughter on my Comcast account. She apparently = switched over to "dookieprotect" (based on a fellow "stoodent" claiming = it was the best) or something like it as malware protection and her box = got zombied into a spam machine. We got it fixed. Any reputable virus = system should fix that. On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 7:01 PM, N4AOF <[email protected]> wrote: Another idiot who wants to claim his Yahoo account was = =E2=80=9Chacked=E2=80=9D because he can=E2=80=99t explain why his = computer is sending out spam. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01CDC572.15E1DE00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type></HEAD> <BODY dir=3Dltr bgColor=3D#ffffff text=3D#000000> <DIV dir=3Dltr> <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <DIV>Oh yes, it is always =E2=80=9Csomeone else=E2=80=99s=E2=80=9D = computer that =E2=80=9Cgot hacked=E2=80=9D -- =20 BS on both counts =E2=80=93 the vast majority of these spam infestations = come from the=20 person either getting malware on their computer or from the person = having given=20 away their account information in response to phishing, fake sites, = social=20 engineering, or harvesting programs that offer to = =E2=80=98consolidate=E2=80=99 all your mail=20 accounts.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The =E2=80=9Csomeone else=E2=80=99s computer=E2=80=9D story CAN = occasionally be true because some=20 botnet malware does change the =E2=80=9Cfrom=E2=80=9D address on the = email (usually detectable=20 in the headers) but that is rare overall and the odds are nearly = astronomical in=20 any closed mail list (like this one and Yahoo or Google Groups) because = the=20 changed =E2=80=9Cfrom=E2=80=9D address would need to match someone on = the subscriber list. =20 </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Bottom line: When we see spam here, it almost certainly came from = the=20 account shown in the From address and usually the individual is far from = blameless.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In any case, regardless of who might be at fault, there is only one = reasonable response for the manager of any mail list =E2=80=93 once an = address is used=20 to send spam to the group, the manager needs to remove and ban that = account from=20 the list to prevent its use for continued spamming of the list = members.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; = COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: = none"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt tahoma"> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5"> <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A = [email protected]=20 href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Joe</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 18, 2012 03:37 AM</DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A [email protected]=20 href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]= eforge.net</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [BitPim-user] (no subject)</DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV></DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; = COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: = none"> <DIV class=3Dmoz-cite-prefix>Most of the time, somebody else got their = computer=20 hacked and all the email addresses harvested and used without ever = touching any=20 of their computers. Teach people to use BCC instead of CC or TO = for=20 mailings so fewer addresses get unnecessarily propagated to vulnerable=20 machines.<BR><BR>On 11/17/2012 10:28 PM, Toby Fredrickson = wrote:<BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 cite=3Dmid:[email protected]= il.com=20 type=3D"cite">That happened to my Daughter on my Comcast account. She = apparently=20 switched over to "dookieprotect" (based on a fellow "stoodent" = claiming it was=20 the best) or something like it as malware protection and her box got = zombied=20 into a spam machine. We got it fixed. Any reputable virus system = should fix=20 that.<BR><BR> <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 7:01 PM, N4AOF <SPAN=20 dir=3Dltr><<A href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D_blank=20 moz-do-not-send=3D"true">[email protected]</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; = PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"=20 class=3Dgmail_quote> <DIV dir=3Dltr> <DIV dir=3Dltr> <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <DIV>Another idiot who wants to claim his Yahoo account was = =E2=80=9Chacked=E2=80=9D because=20 he can=E2=80=99t explain why his computer is sending out spam.</DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: = 'Calibri'; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: = none"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt tahoma"> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5"><FONT=20 = face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOT= E></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01CDC572.15E1DE00-- --===============4564406597415177035== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. 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