Re: Please Mozilla, Pay attention to accessibility for Linux users

Hi, Burt.

We really have very close and active collaboration with NVDA team,
perhaps even more active than with Orca team. Recently we've got on
board a new member to improve AT support on Linux. I hope we'll get
rid a cause to blame us on this way in nearest future.

Thank you.
Alexander.


On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Burt Henry <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 12/18/2010 5:05 chela, Jason White wrote:
>>
>> Burt Henry<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I do not know enough about any details to help solve the problems,
>>> but many web-pages are almost un-navigable.
>>
>> What are the Orca bug report numbers for all of your issues? Have these
>> been
>> identified by developers as Mozilla problems and reported as Mozilla bugs?
>>
>> In my experience, the Mozilla project is quite responsive when
>> accessibility-related bugs are properly reported.
>>
>> Which version of Firefox are you running? Do you have the Orca focus
>> tracking
>> options set correctly in the Firefox-specific Orca preferences? If you're
>> not
>> sure, please take up the issues on the Orca mailing list. For Orca 2.30.2
>> and
>> Firefox 3.6 and above, the default focus tracking doesn't need to be
>> changed;
>> but it does have to be switched if you're running Firefox 3.5 or earlier
>> with
>> Orca 2.30.
>
>> Orca has some known performance issues and there's a project under
>> development
>> to address these. Some of the funding is coming from Mozilla if I remember
>> correctly.
>>
>> My own experience of running Firefox with Orca has been markedly better
>> than
>> yours.
>>
> I've just switched from the standard Orca 2.30.2 to latest stable (think its
> 2.9.95 or some such)
>  and performance is somewhat better.
> For the record I've used only firefox 3.6 since mostly migrating to Linux in
> the summer... think it's 3.6.12 now...
> I have also tried playing with focus settings, and no I can't tell you all
> the bug-report numbers...I don't have time, nor should I have to spend the
> time to list these as they are widely known issues in the blind-Ubuntu
> community...
> Orca is not the program one would ultimately hope for, but from those who do
> have the time to spend on yet another list, the consensus is that many of
> the problems are with how Mozilla gives accessibility to the screen-reader
> in Linux... (works great with NVDA in windows)
> My biggest problem that is clearly Mozilla's responsibility is that caused
> with latest t-bird update.
> Message lists are now and suddenly pretty much un-navigable since 3.1.7.
> 3.1.6 was quite accessible, but sadly I can't seem to find the exact build
> of 3.1.6 that was used in the Vinux distro of Ubuntu Lucid 10.04 ltd. The
> Vinux folks did nothing to the Ubuntu version from what they say, but the
> versions I get from the ubuntuzilla site (think that's was what it was
> called) don't work exactly as the original did, nor does it show up the same
> on the gui menus.
> I'm a big Mozi fan, and I'm glad that firefox works well for you, but you
> either do not have a good base-line to compare to, or are the rare exception
> from what I can gather from talking to other blind-linux users.
> At any rate, I'm no whining blind newbee, so don't get defensive with me,
> and until I learn to code well I won't be wasting my time on the Orca list.
> Orca is what we have , so I won't be bad-mouthing it, but it does kinda suck
> when you compare it to another fos project: NVDA.
> (may not be completely their fault of course...the nature of the beast is a
> bit different because of the OS I suppose, and I hear)
> Best wishes for fast browsing, and hopefully with firefox...
> B..H.
>
>
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