Re: disable-output-escaping
"Gabriel Blum" <[email protected]>
| Newsgroups | gmane.comp.mozilla.devel.layout.xslt |
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| Organization | Another Netscape Collabra Server User |
| Message-ID | <[email protected]> |
> Compliance with the standard and with the community opinion is the > objectives. Both are satisfied, as DOE has been marked as a bad practice > by the community. Both satisfied ?? Sure? Saying that anything has been marked bad by an entity called community implies that I actually respect the power and the decision of this community; That's true, I do. BUT... it's rude, because it also puts excludes me from it, creating a group which I do not belong to and trying to use that to convince me. At the same time, and you say "the community decided" you delegate the decision to this abstract entity called the community, which has the power. Also, you forget that opinions change over time. Well, I think I'm part of the community, I think the opinion should change over time and I think someone made this decision alone, probably the 2 or 3 guys that own the module. IMHO, and with ALL DUE RESPECT, I think this decision should be reconsidered. I think that if MSIE implements a critical feature, we should implement too, even better - if it is compliant ( we don't want to implement m$ trash ). DOE is an important enough feature that puts MSIE waaay ahead of mozilla, because correct rendering of data is the BASIC of everything. Visuals matter a lot, and if in mozilla the html data field that dumb-people input into the database render as ugly tags, than people is going to use MSIE, because there it renders as HTML tags... you know, simple bolt/italics/underline and bullets. Tell me, how many applications allow people to do simple markup on data fields??? It's WAY better to allow DOE on the rendering side than to enforce correct input (which not always is possible) or to modify people's data by server parsing and fixing it ( not only this is more complex but most times it's just plain wrong : the computer should not do things with the user that he hasn't requested, neither should change data he inputted himself). Not to mention applications that rely on creating/capturing/transfering/moving/crawling for/manipulating/handling/insert-verb-here/ eletronic documents in different formats, converting to html and publishing it in websites/intranets using xml+xsl driven technology; You know, most document formats are NOT semantic, so it's impossible a perfect automatic convertion to xml, but almost always exist a transformation to HTML which can be put inside a xml document and can be rendered with DOE. > Please note that i'm not trying to argue; just to explain why you received > these responces to your problem. I'm stubborn, I know. But I don't mean to piss anyone of. I just love firefox and felt it was a pity that the company I work for ( a very large one ) decided to throw away firefox support for the product because it didn't have DOE; We have a large system all built with xml and xsl for presentation in browsers, and I personally always managed to make things work in firefox, but without DOE, it can't be done. I'd love if any kind soul would reconsider it. Best Regards, Gabriel Blum