Poorly worded e-mail instruction from mozilla to change passwords, if it is genuine : Fwd: Second notice: LDAP password expiring.

"ISHIKAWA,chiaki" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.mozilla.devel.seamonkey
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi,

I have no idea where to report
but I have a feeling that dev-planning is where I can point out that the 
current
e-mail request sent by mozilla.org for LDAP password change leaves rooms 
for improvement so that the improvement can be planned for the future 
e-mails.

Here is what happened:
I have received an e-mail that requests LDAP password change from 
mozilla.org if I were to believe that it comes from mozilla.org by 
looking at the From: line.
If it is genuine, the mail is not worded very clearly
to avoid misunderstanding. Many people may take it as phishing e-mail.
(Possibly that is why I can't find the first notice?)

The following e-mail quoted below  came in today and requested me to 
change my password at mozilla LDAP database. Initially, I have no idea 
if this request e-mail is genuine or not. Why?

Issue 1:

It would be great that mozilla.org has an easy to access webpage on its 
website, in its own .mozilla.org domain to make sure that the recipient 
can check the authenticity of the e-mail: that mozilla.org does send out 
such e-mails periodically to request the change of password with such a 
wording, etc.
A single web page would at least assure such requests do come in.
As it stands, it is no different from phishing e-mail from bad guys to 
log in to my banking account, etc. to change the password immediately 
due to breach incident, etc.
(Also, I don't think I received the first request in the last few weeks? 
Maybe I overlooked it somehow. Or it could have gone into spam folder?)

Issue 2:

If every URL involved in the process or in the accompanying text is 
within .mozilla.org,
the recipient has more assurance that the e-mail is genuine.

What compounded my uncertainty is this: naturally I wanted to check the 
"further instruction" in the mentioned URL

https://mana.mozilla.org/wiki/display/SD/LDAP+Password+Reset+Instructions.

But when I accessed it, although it is supposed to be a wiki page for 
MERE BROWSING of the instruction, it requested for me to log in using 
the said mozilla LDP account (!) using an EXTERNAL authentication site. 
If this is a phishing attempt, a perfect method to obtain the password 
of an account holder.
The authentication URL is
https://mozilla.okta.com/login/login.htm?fromURI=%2Fapp%2Fmozillacorp_mana_1%2Fexk17bvb7gwCMzi161d8%2Fsso%2Fsaml%3FSAMLRequest%3DhZJbSwMxEIX%252FypL3NhvdbpfQFuouhUIVqZcHX0qMow3NzUy2Xn692S2V6oM%252BBU7mMOc7zASF0Z7P27i1a3htAWP2brRF3n9MSRssdwIVcisMII%252BS38wvV%252FxsmHMfXHTSaXJi%252BdshECFE5SzJls2UbOr8gtWL82JclixvRmNWVsVFvSiKipVNUVcku4eAaX5Kkj2ZEFtYWozCxiTlrBzkxSCvbtmIn1U8Lx5I1iQGZUXsXdsYPXJKjftUWouh20UxlM5Q4f1RlC74jRFWbBiF9x0bP%252B4fxy9v9eWnYiV7qiiiox0byWpnEbrVf0HKwxCXbQjpHSjjtZIqkmzhgoS%252B6yl5FhqhI7pOpag9fCvzY0fdstZAuIGwVxLu1qsTnhR3%252BA0VXqgBrZ2l3mFcA%252FouAplNutS8Ly3Mflsm9PR3cjiEq0SzbK5dCvzRxTXiH9hOUU%252BD536UxyAsqgSdMFKetzqAiAkthhYInR1W%252Fjy32Rc%253D%26RelayState%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fmana.mozilla.org%252Fwiki%252Fdisplay%252FSD%252FLDAP%252BPassword%252BReset%252BInstructions%2
 6SigAlg%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.w3.org%252F2000%252F09%252Fxmldsig%2523rsa-sha1%26Signature%3Dd7OenOqyYW7ymUhf2mMArzLMSGdKwmXew4pQVXwh80ZDoekQxBG5soNEP94ZdML358zJj9zdXCcPuINI%252BRQcaoNPriT
 yXmjdxPVsHK5OgnIuUCXajUwI%252F0lNBytcYs4Sttd67dxsgvtVXFHnZTZme1s%252B8MQnN2meAE72otBrupgIl2smnOot5vLDLMWb7%252F0ZSBhDcU3j9o7TpskGIODsLw%252F%252B8zS1y0GKSNNdTu7%252Ft0u0feJe%252FsVePRHIx8OUMdl0FdzfK5LptiZ1lMH5Tol5QZcy3wJAQsIqUkPdzUDHHp%252FjWHrbGcZ2AJCHyIrPR0OwUcCiZ%252B1bdVzg6pm8DzBguA%253D%253D

(OK, some of you working on a single-signon type of application 
immediately notices okta.com name, and think that this is a non issue. 
But communication-wise, the current scheme sucks.)

The easy to reach web page which I mentioned in Issue 1 should state 
very clearly that
this okta.com site is used for mozilla log in to access (WHAT?) a 
simple  instruction to
change our LDAP passwords.

I wonder, though, if https://passwordreset.mozilla.org/ can do the 
password resetting, why can't a similarsite INSIDE mozilla's domain can 
let us log into the wiki page (?).
It is a little difficult to fathom the logic of the workflow, especially 
the requirement to log in before one can read the change procedure.

Maybe okta.com usage and such is a widely shared knowledge WITHIN core 
mozilla employees, but for volunteer patch submitters, it is not. Well 
at least this volunteer does not know it. Thus the announcement web page 
discussed in issue 1 above.

Anyway, unless a permanent web page that can be accessed without needing 
to log in explains clearly  the flow of LDAP password change in a few 
sentences and that we need to access certain EXTERNAL authentication 
service to read the instruction (!?), a receiver of the request is not 
quite sure whether he/she should follow this almost phishing-like e-mail.
The web page discussed in Issue-1 should mention the name of the 
external service and URL clearly.

Such additional information that allows one to cross-check the authenticity
goes a long way to trust such an e-mail request from mozilla.org.

WELL, if the following is NOT a genuine request from mozilla.org, I bet 
someone is trying to collect the passwords for mozilla account holders :-)
(Just kidding, but are you sure?)

Of course, I checked that okta.com seems to be in business since 2010, 
but I have never met someone who uses this service myself. Most of the 
cloud services I use engage other authentication services, AND MORE TO 
THE POINT, such services EXPLAIN THE USE OF EXTERNAL AUTHENTICATION 
GATEWAY IN ADVANCE and in publicly accessible web pages(!).

BTW, I noticed that the first URL, as far as my careful checking goes, 
DOES come from mozilla.org domain and so I should be OK (?).

In any case, requiring a login to access  the instruction to change 
password is a bad design IMHO.

I hope this comment can help someone to re-word the e-mail text and let 
someone provide a single one web page for some paranoid account holder  
like me to crosscheck the authenticity of the request e-mail to a better 
degree.

TIA and thank you for offering the great software products and 
infrastructure to work together.

PS: the use of PGP mail text with the PGP public key in a prominent web 
page inside
mozilla.org domain might also add to the trust.

------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	Second notice: LDAP password expiring.
Date: 	Fri, 8 Apr 2016 09:30:17 +0000 (UTC)
From: 	[email protected]
To: 	[email protected]



Hi,

Please change your LDAP password as soon as possible.  The password
change form is available at https://passwordreset.mozilla.org/.
Further instructions on changing your password are at
https://mana.mozilla.org/wiki/display/SD/LDAP+Password+Reset+Instructions.  Please remember
to log-out of all your current applications, before you reset your
password.  Your current password is set to expire on Thu Apr 14 19:00:00 2016 in 6 days.

Please note that you will be locked out of LDAP based services if you
do not change your password before this period.

Thank you,
Mozilla SysAdmins

p.s: This add-on can help you with changing all of your ldap passwords in
Firefox - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9652/
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