Re: Censorship is becoming ridiculous

On 01/13/2021 06:54 AM, Wolf K wrote:
> On 2021-01-13 01:34, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 01/12/2021 09:24 AM, Rinaldi wrote:
>>> On 1/12/21 10:54 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
>>>> On 1/12/21 7:33 AM, Hartdonor wrote:
>>>>> I believe in Liberty. Libertarianism and classical liberalism are
>>>>> pretty
>>>>> cool things.
>>>>
>>>> Libertarianism sounds good on paper, but it can lead to situations such
>>>> as described in the following famous quioe.
>>>>
>>>>> First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—Because I
>>>>> was not a socialist.
>>>>> Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak
>>>>> out—Because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews,
>>>>> and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for
>>>>> me—and there was no one left to speak for me
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Niem%C3%B6ller
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes you have to be your Brother's Keeper, both  as individuals and
>>>> as a group.
>>>>
>>>> liberalism | ˈlib(ə)rəˌlizəm |
>>>> noun
>>>> the holding of liberal views: one of the basic tenets of liberalism is
>>>> tolerance | the shift from liberalism to radicalism.
>>>>
>>>> New Oxford American Dictionary
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, today's liberalism seems to be moving away from
>>>> tolerance.
>>
>> The good kind is now called "classical liberalism".
>>
>>> Perhaps the tolerance level has been reached or exceeded?
>>
>> I think of it as "a liberal application of government power".

1.  I can't have a fence higher than 4 feet in front of my house. 
Moreover, some percentage of it has to be see-through.

2.  Forcing a company to jump through hoops defending the EEO suit 
brought by an employee claiming discrimination instead of incompetence 
and refusal to work the hours the job required.

3.  Building the useless and outrageously expensive California "bullet 
train" with tax money.

4.  Disallowing the use of unused but previously-affixed postage stamps 
-- you know, cutting off the unused stamps on the business-reply 
envelope and gluing them to mail YOU want to send.  This is forbidden.

5.  The fact that people (mostly women) who braid hair for a living need 
to be licensed by the State.  Lots more license requirements like that.

> Frankly, I have no idea any more what you USians mean by "liberal" and
> "liberalism." And please don't quote or refer to 18th century texts.
> Language changes. What matters is not how someone defined their
> concept(s) back then (however instructive their writings may be), but
> how people use words now. And just as importantly, how they believe
> those words apply to their and other people's decisions and actions.
>
> And apart from "Something I don't like" or "Something I Like", I see no
> common meaning(s) in the way the terms are used.
>
> So, kindly tell me what you mean.
>
> With actual, concrete examples of.

The more I think of that I personally know about, the more pissed-off I 
get :-(


-- 
Cheers, Bev
    "Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority."
    -- U.S. Supreme Court, McIntyre v Ohio Elections,1995

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