Am Freitag, 6. Juli 2018 11:12:17 UTC+2 schrieb Francesco Lodolo [:flod]:
> Il 06/07/18 11:04, Jorg Knobloch ha scritto:
> > However, I think some locales still need to fix their shortcut command keys, for example German has toggleAttachmentPaneCmd.key "m", where "m" doesn't appear at all in "Anhang" or "Anhänge" (German for attachment(s)). So not a very good mnemonic.
The bigger problem in German is that Alt+M is already taken for "Mich später erinnern" (Remind me later) on attachment reminder info bar. I.e. whenever the bar is shown, Alt+M does NOT work as a shortcut key to toggle attachment pane.
> Shortcuts are not localized normally. As a user, you would expect CTRL+T
> to open a new tab, independently from the language, CTRL+W to close a
> window, etc. So, in this case I would expect CTRL+M to remain CTRL+M in
> German, and the accesskey to be adapted to the label.
First of all, Ctrl+M is already taken for "Write".
Then, just to be clear, toggleAttachmentPaneCmd.key has |modifier="alt"| on Windows (and |modifier="control"| on Mac OS). So the resulting shortcut is ALT+* on Windows, where * should be the same as your localized attachments.accesskey.
In the current design (from user's pov), as a net result, there is NO dedicated keyboard shortcut for toggling attachment pane, but ONLY your localized attachments.accesskey with extended functionality (e.g. Alt+M for English, Alt+N for German). We only have <key key="&toggleAttachmentPaneCmd.key;"> as a technicality, which could be eliminated to make things easier for localizers.
I hear where you are coming from, but Jörg is 100% right, in many well-known other applications out there, keyboard shortcuts ARE localized.
Microsoft Office is another example:
English:
Ctrl+B = bold
Ctrl+I = italics
Ctrl+U = underline
German:
Ctrl+Shift+F = bold (Fett)
Ctrl+Shift+K = italics (Kursiv)
Ctrl+Shift+U = underline (Unterstreichen)
For a number of other shortcuts, German is just lucky to have words starting with the same letter as the English word, but I bet other languages are less lucky.
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