Re: detect plugin

oh by all means please implement the html5 spec :) ...
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#video
then the mv_embed script will just skip over your plugin :) as all the 
methods that it would otherwise map to your plugin will already be 
implemented :)
mv_embed exist precisely because there has not been the sort of 
organization on the client side that your talking about.

Hopefully things will change with html5... for now we are stuck in java 
script land prototyping objects and mapping them to each plugins feature 
set so that they degrade in a controlled fashion.  ie <video id=v1 
src="video.ogg"/> plays with whatever method the client supports.

The idea is if any web developer uses the mv_embed script then they 
don't have to worry about the different underling plugins ... it would 
be ideal as you say to have a generic standard interface and thats what 
mv_embed hopes to do while plugins/browsers catch up to html5

its all open source and all...its relatively easy to add plug in profile 
as they just extend a base object then remap relevant js calls .... if 
things go really well... plugin writers could add their plugin profile 
directly and include the mv_package for embeding theora in the plugin 
distribution ;)

--michael

Kevin DeKorte wrote:
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> Michael Dale wrote:
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>> I am writing a HTML5 <video> tag support into contemporary browsers via 
>> javascript:
>> http://metavid.ucsc.edu/blog/2007/06/07/html5-video-the-future-is-now/
>>
>> one playback method is the mplayer plugin. Right now its very limited in 
>> its support. To detect mozilla based plugins I have been using the 
>> navigator.mimeTypes but mplayer does not seem to register anything 
>> mplayer specific: ie vlc plugin registers application/x-vlc-plugin, and 
>> oggplay plugin application/liboggplay ...
>>
>> Is there anyway to reliably detect if mplayer plugin is installed.. that 
>> way I could extend the greater html5 support (the javascript/css 
>> playhead full screen etc) to the associative mplayer javascript hooks: 
>> http://mplayerplug-in.cvs.sourceforge.net/mplayerplug-in/mplayerplug-in/DOCS/tech/javascript.txt?view=markup 
>>
>>
>> A work around is:  if windows media is supported, & on linux platform 
>> ... you probably have mplayer installed... but I think it would be ideal 
>> to register a mplayer specific mime type for easy detection without 
>> conflicts with vlc.
>>
>> --michael
>>
>>     
>
> Michael,
>
> This would be quite easy to do, but I have to ask myself.. why should
> you change the functionality of your website based on the client site
> capabilities? Also, what about my other video plugin, gecko-mediaplayer?
> Should I have a separate mime type for it.. you see where I am going
> with this writing all these special cases for every single
> browser/plugin combination is not going to be fun. Support should be
> generic as much as possible, but then at a certain point you have to say
> "The client needs to do something on their end to make this work."
>
> Kevin
>
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