Re: mp3 playback from URL

Em dom., 24 de nov. de 2024 às 21:18, ydegoyon @gmail.com <
[email protected]> escreveu:

*> they can fork it and even thank the author,> but never pretend they are
the author, dumb ill man.*

Unauthorized - the piece of software I was talking about - clearly has you
as the author. I don't know and I'm not sure others know what you're
talking about with PiDip being stolen by an "unknown youngster", and I
think you are an intelligent man as to realize we're not shipping PiDip
anywhere and that you are not talking to whoever you are accusing of
stealing your work without credit. And ohboy, you're really trying hard to
offend me in a petty way :) I'm sorry I got that way into your head.

I didn't wanna brag about it, but I also have a 3rd divergent trait, which
is being highly gifted. My IQ scored way above average and it masks my
issues, as when I'm challenged by them, the score drops to "average". Since
you're so interested in my conditions, check this diagram
https://tendingpaths.wordpress.com/2022/12/12/updated-autism-adhd-giftedness-venn-diagram/
(actually I'd like to raise awareness, this is really helping me).

*> unauthorized ( the real one, kept in GISS.tv git ) now have the same
license as PiDiP*

I said I cloned from your git <git clone
http://giss.tv/~git/git.cgi/unauthorized.git>. The license in there, in all
the objects I checked, was still 'GPL'. If you changed it, you don't seem
to have updated it or made new versions based on your new license in the
"real repository, kept in GISS.tv".

I'm actually curious about the license discussion as I don't know much
about it. As I see it, once you release a version with the GPL license,
people can fork it and redistribute it forever. I bet the Pd people know a
lot about licensing and that is why 'unauthorized' was kept in Extended.

You somehow seem to want us to "remove" unauthorized from somewhere. Well,
where? We're not shipping it. We're not maintaining it. I am actually
trying to help you understand the situation. We're all on the same page
that "unauthorized" should not be used. So I hope you realize how pointless
this discussion is. You don't seem to get things even being so smart and
after multiple explanations. If it's still confusing, I'll just give up.

I also added the information that, currently, the ones who are still
shipping unauthorized are Pd-L2ork and Purr Data. You can try and reach and
have a fight with them, but I don't think you can get it out of there in
the same way you couldn't get it out of Extended.

The extended libraries were once uploaded to be installed in Vanilla via
our deken plugin. It was important to have these libraries around in a
transition phase period when Extended quite unfortunately ceased and people
were adapting. There are new libraries being maintained and with
alternatives. Unauthorized is dead, abandoned, no one is maintaining it or
making new uploads. There's an old version there which doesn't even run on
newer machines and it has the old license and explains how it was forked
and even points to your original repository. Isn't that good enough? Do you
want us to upload a new version with the new license so people can install
from deken? Can we leave it at that? Do you want it out of deken? Under
what reasoning?

It's part of my personal mission to offer alternatives from old and
abandoned libraries, from Extended and elsewhere. I already have
alternatives for a couple of objects I used from unauthorized, like [grid]
(I got [slider2d] and [pad] in ELSE for that). Yeah, I lied I "never used
it", but I don't consider that using a couple of objects when I was using
Extended means I actually knew your library.

For the record, I will reinforce that now that I have unauthorized cloned,
I will look again on what's in there for real, see if something is worth
having an alternative to. And regarding the topic of the thread, I'll
investigate more about what we have in Pd regarding streaming and will look
into adding those things into ELSE (and in PlugData by extension).

*> i might be ill too, but would not expose this on a mailing list.*

You're exposing yourself a lot though, seriously. Hey, time for a peace
offering here. I'll be bluntly honest, but I don't wanna get into this
petty silly exchange of offenses. You do seem to have mental issues in the
way you expose yourself and I'm actually changing the way I feel about you.

It's ok for you to expose whatever you deal with, but I agree you shouldn't
expose them to justify your behaviour as people don't have to take crap
because you're not ok. And it's not like you want to justify anything and
be sorry for whatever you're doing, you're actually doubling down. My case
differs and, for starters, it's not an "illness", they're divergent traits,
and I'm not using anything as an excuse to justify any rude/offensive
behaviour. On the contrary, I was defending myself from silly attacks and
insults, implying I'm stupid or something ;) Whatever you have or don't
have technically, an illness or not, what I see is a confused and grumpy
dude. Regardless of the case, I'm actually just getting sorry for you.

My condition makes it really hard for me to not be bluntly honest. It can
haunt me for a lifetime if I hold things. For instance, you were a real
prick at PdCon09. It was a nightmare dealing with you all along. I regret I
invited you, insisted on your coming, paid for your stuff, made sure you
had all you needed, because at literally the last minute you simply missed
the flight we had paid for you. I never told you how that made me feel (I
was also pretty busy at the event) and here I still am, finding the need to
tell it to your face how that screwed us, how I wish I had invited somebody
else instead, and how you were just a dick about it. I don't need to expose
the details, people can just imagine how uncool it was. It's nice to let it
out, offer you a happy song and tell you how it felt, but I'm now having
mixed feelings and it's true I'm also just sorry to realize you're still
struggling with whatever haunts you after so many years.

Ok, it is out, let bygones be bygones. I'm done. None of this concerns the
Pd-list, but I wanted to clear this wasn't just some silly engagement
without a history. On the other hand, you're also coming back here and
being offensive and rude in general again. You're just revisiting how you
mistreated people about 14 years ago out of nowhere. So I'd like to
clarify why I took the stand and had the initiative to deal with you and
not let you have it easy this time around, and push you back if you're just
gonna make a scene again. I see others have an easier way of handling this
and just ignore you. That's way harder for me, but it gets easier after I
let things out.

I think the community is open to welcoming you back if you can hold it
together, as this is what was happening, you were being treated nice, after
all you did, but you blew it. To be honest, I poked you and pushed you back
cause I don't count on your ability to behave. But if I'm wrong and you can
be nice, welcome back :) anytime!

Really, I'd be glad to collaborate and let bygones be bygones, and help
with what's troubling you. If you’re open to a more productive approach and
can keep things civil, I’m happy to exchange. However, if that's not the
case, I’ll disengage and I guess others won't bother much as well.

cheers

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