Re: mp3 playback from URL

yeh, get a cure, i'm doing well

autorship was about *pd OpenCV* if you can't read anything clearly,
and it's mainly from *Luis Gomez i Bigorda* and me if you can't even 
remember details.

at the same time, yes, removing unauthorized from *Deken *
would please me.

i write in bold so you can remember.

and we have absolutely whatsover *ANY personal relationship*,
so drop your comments about my attitude.

yeh, friends told me about the mood in your convention,
and i don't regret i wasn't there,
i don't go in a colony for boyscouts.

all your old rancors really show that you are sick, not more.

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Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> Em dom., 24 de nov. de 2024 às 21:18, ydegoyon @gmail.com 
> <http://gmail.com> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
> escreveu:*
> > they can fork it and even thank the author,
> > but never pretend they are the author, dumb ill man.*
>
> Unauthorized - the piece of software I was talking about - clearly has 
> you as the author. I don't know and I'm not sure others know what 
> you're talking about with PiDip being stolen by an "unknown 
> youngster", and I think you are an intelligent man as to realize we're 
> not shipping PiDip anywhere and that you are not talking to whoever 
> you are accusing of stealing your work without credit. And ohboy, 
> you're really trying hard to offend me in a petty way :) I'm sorry I 
> got that way into your head.
>
> I didn't wanna brag about it, but I also have a 3rd divergent trait, 
> which is being highly gifted. My IQ scored way above average and it 
> masks my issues, as when I'm challenged by them, the score drops to 
> "average". Since you're so interested in my conditions, check this 
> diagram
> https://tendingpaths.wordpress.com/2022/12/12/updated-autism-adhd-giftedness-venn-diagram/ 
> (actually I'd like to raise awareness, this is really helping me).
>
> *> unauthorized ( the real one, kept in GISS.tv git ) now have the 
> same license as PiDiP*
>
> I said I cloned from your git <git clone 
> http://giss.tv/~git/git.cgi/unauthorized.git>. The license in there, 
> in all the objects I checked, was still 'GPL'. If you changed it, you 
> don't seem to have updated it or made new versions based on your new 
> license in the "real repository, kept in GISS.tv".
>
> I'm actually curious about the license discussion as I don't know much 
> about it. As I see it, once you release a version with the GPL 
> license, people can fork it and redistribute it forever. I bet the Pd 
> people know a lot about licensing and that is why 'unauthorized' was 
> kept in Extended.
>
> You somehow seem to want us to "remove" unauthorized from somewhere. 
> Well, where? We're not shipping it. We're not maintaining it. I am 
> actually trying to help you understand the situation. We're all on the 
> same page that "unauthorized" should not be used. So I hope you 
> realize how pointless this discussion is. You don't seem to get things 
> even being so smart and after multiple explanations. If it's still 
> confusing, I'll just give up.
>
> I also added the information that, currently, the ones who are still 
> shipping unauthorized are Pd-L2ork and Purr Data. You can try and 
> reach and have a fight with them, but I don't think you can get it out 
> of there in the same way you couldn't get it out of Extended.
>
> The extended libraries were once uploaded to be installed in Vanilla 
> via our deken plugin. It was important to have these libraries around 
> in a transition phase period when Extended quite unfortunately ceased 
> and people were adapting. There are new libraries being maintained and 
> with alternatives. Unauthorized is dead, abandoned, no one is 
> maintaining it or making new uploads. There's an old version there 
> which doesn't even run on newer machines and it has the old license 
> and explains how it was forked and even points to your original 
> repository. Isn't that good enough? Do you want us to upload a new 
> version with the new license so people can install from deken? Can we 
> leave it at that? Do you want it out of deken? Under what reasoning?
>
> It's part of my personal mission to offer alternatives from old and 
> abandoned libraries, from Extended and elsewhere. I already have 
> alternatives for a couple of objects I used from unauthorized, like 
> [grid] (I got [slider2d] and [pad] in ELSE for that). Yeah, I lied I 
> "never used it", but I don't consider that using a couple of objects 
> when I was using Extended means I actually knew your library.
>
> For the record, I will reinforce that now that I have unauthorized 
> cloned, I will look again on what's in there for real, see if 
> something is worth having an alternative to. And regarding the topic 
> of the thread, I'll investigate more about what we have in Pd 
> regarding streaming and will look into adding those things into ELSE 
> (and in PlugData by extension).
>
> *> i might be ill too, but would not expose this on a mailing list.*
>
> You're exposing yourself a lot though, seriously. Hey, time for a 
> peace offering here. I'll be bluntly honest, but I don't wanna get 
> into this petty silly exchange of offenses. You do seem to have mental 
> issues in the way you expose yourself and I'm actually changing the 
> way I feel about you.
>
> It's ok for you to expose whatever you deal with, but I agree you 
> shouldn't expose them to justify your behaviour as people don't have 
> to take crap because you're not ok. And it's not like you want to 
> justify anything and be sorry for whatever you're doing, you're 
> actually doubling down. My case differs and, for starters, it's not an 
> "illness", they're divergent traits, and I'm not using anything as an 
> excuse to justify any rude/offensive behaviour. On the contrary, I was 
> defending myself from silly attacks and insults, implying I'm stupid 
> or something ;) Whatever you have or don't have technically, an 
> illness or not, what I see is a confused and grumpy dude. Regardless 
> of the case, I'm actually just getting sorry for you.
>
> My condition makes it really hard for me to not be bluntly honest. It 
> can haunt me for a lifetime if I hold things. For instance, you were a 
> real prick at PdCon09. It was a nightmare dealing with you all along. 
> I regret I invited you, insisted on your coming, paid for your stuff, 
> made sure you had all you needed, because at literally the last minute 
> you simply missed the flight we had paid for you. I never told you how 
> that made me feel (I was also pretty busy at the event) and here I 
> still am, finding the need to tell it to your face how that screwed 
> us, how I wish I had invited somebody else instead, and how you were 
> just a dick about it. I don't need to expose the details, people can 
> just imagine how uncool it was. It's nice to let it out, offer you a 
> happy song and tell you how it felt, but I'm now having mixed feelings 
> and it's true I'm also just sorry to realize you're still struggling 
> with whatever haunts you after so many years.
>
> Ok, it is out, let bygones be bygones. I'm done. None of this concerns 
> the Pd-list, but I wanted to clear this wasn't just some silly 
> engagement without a history. On the other hand, you're also coming 
> back here and being offensive and rude in general again. You're just 
> revisiting how you mistreated people about 14 years ago out of 
> nowhere. So I'd like to clarify why I took the stand and had the 
> initiative to deal with you and not let you have it easy this time 
> around, and push you back if you're just gonna make a scene again. I 
> see others have an easier way of handling this and just ignore you. 
> That's way harder for me, but it gets easier after I let things out.
>
> I think the community is open to welcoming you back if you can hold it 
> together, as this is what was happening, you were being treated nice, 
> after all you did, but you blew it. To be honest, I poked you and 
> pushed you back cause I don't count on your ability to behave. But if 
> I'm wrong and you can be nice, welcome back :) anytime!
>
> Really, I'd be glad to collaborate and let bygones be bygones, and 
> help with what's troubling you. If you’re open to a more productive 
> approach and can keep things civil, I’m happy to exchange. However, if 
> that's not the case, I’ll disengage and I guess others won't bother 
> much as well.
>
> cheers

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