Re: OpenOffice.org 3.3 - PLS approve and request language versions

Marcus Lange <[email protected]> Wed, 09 Feb 2011 12:18:55 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.localization
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Rafaella Braconi wrote:

Hi Andrea,

>> My proposal was to have all remaining RC10 builds and language packs
>> be tested automatically to check if they get installed and then to
>> have them distributed over the mirror network. ... The proposal has
>> been accepted:
>> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ReleaseStatus_Minutes#2011-02-07
> 
> Reading yesterday's minutes I had understood that you would post a
> "proposal" to these list, not a "decision". I mean, I had the impression
> that this was still under discussion.
> 
>> This means that on February 11th, we will proceed with the
>> distribution of automatically approved build/language packs.
> 
> Please don't. This could very easily be mistaken for a way to tell the
> community that they are not needed, while the truth is that a lot of N-L

I can understand your concern but this is absolutely not the way we want 
to go and how this step should be seen. Of course we need final tests 
for the RC build. As we (Oracle) do not have engineers with an 
understanding for all these supported languages, we need your support 
for this. This is really highly appreciated.

> projects have already approved their builds explicitly, and as shown by
> yesterday's figures there are as many approved builds for OOo 3.2.1 in
> its entire lifespan as for OOo 3.3.0 in less than two weeks. So I don't
> see a need for this.

Please have a look on "http://download.openoffice.org/all_rc.html". 
Every gap in the install and langpack tables means the build is released 
and no longer in RC status. But IMHO there are to less gaps. Furthermore 
there are languages which have no gaps, means they have no release at all.

These NL teams have no chance to release the builds as they have not the 
manpower, hardware for the final release tests or other reasons. Maybe 
they have a well localized build but how to get these builds to the users?

Here we want to step in with a smaller test amount to help to release 
these languages, too. AFAIK we haven't seen any bigger issues which are 
language dependent, so IMHO we can assume that a more simple test is 
sufficiant for the remaining languages. So, an automated testing is what 
we are offering.

Especially for less used platforms like Solaris Sparc/x86, Linux 64-bit, 
MacOS Intel (regarding the tables) this could be very helpful.

But maybe you have another idea how to help here? :-)

Best regards

Marcus