RE: Re: Sticking point

"Dinwiddie, George" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.extreme-customering
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Bill Walton said:
> First, the post gives Glen an "action plan."  Glen is a 
> Director reporting to the CIO of his organization managing a 
> multi-million dollar per year, multi-year project.  
> Programmers and consultants do not, in my world, give 
> unsolicited "action plans" to folks at that level unless they 
> are intentionally being challenging and confrontational; i.e. rude.

As I read it, Dossy was describing what is possible when the political
issues are cleared away.  Glen is describing what is possible given his
particular political issues.  This difference is generally unstated and the
cause of considerable misunderstanding, but that's quite different from
being rude or commanding someone else.  Dossy and Glen know each other well
enough to know that Dossy doesn't presume to control Glen's actions and Glen
would not be controlled by Dossy.
 
> Second, the post says "There is no a priori way you can tell 
> me for sure that this is just outright impossible to do."  
> Glen doesn't have to prove anything here.  I take his word 
> for it that he's gone as far as he can at this point.  He's 
> also said he continues to move forward.  In my world, 
> progress is rewarded.  We do not chastise those who are not 
> (yet) perfect. To do so is rude.

Yet you chastise Dossy for his email?  Hmmm...

> The post questions Glen's Courage and Will ("won't try").  
> That, in my world, is more than just rude.  Here in Texas, 
> them's fightin' words.

In XP, Courage with a Capital C is one of the four values.  Saying someone
"lacks Courage" is not the same as saying they're chicken--it's saying that
they're better than they think and they can go further.

 - George [wishing some Texans were a bit more reticent about fighting]

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