Re: Summing up and moving on (I hope)

"Bill Walton" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.extreme-customering
Message-ID <175b01c2a215$24d97840$6401a8c0@dp2000>
Ron Jeffries wrote:


> On Thursday, December 12, 2002, at 11:35:23 AM, Bill Walton wrote:
>
> > Level of Passion, either positive or negative, is generally a
contra-indicator for decision
> > makers in the business environments I work in and am interested in
discussing here.  The
> > decisions these folks make impact the lives of hundreds, more often
thousands of people;
> > employees, customers, stakeholders of all sorts.  They do not trust
emotion as a sound basis for
> > decision making.  Passionate presentations are discounted as unreliable.
Decisions made on the
> > basis of passion are considered unreliable.  People who make decisions
on that basis are
> > considered unreliable.  The folks I hoped to engage when I created this
list are unlikely to
> > spend the time to participate in a discussion here if it appears that
passion, rather than
> > reason, is the basis for discussion.
>
> In my forty-plus years as a programmer, manager, executive, consultant and
> custodian, I have not found the above to be true.  I have found that the
best
> people in every organization are driven as much by passion as by reason.
They
> use reason to choose actions about which they are passionate.

Passion drives us to develop the hypotheses, collect the evidence, etc. that
we will apply in our decision making processes.  Passion does not drive the
decision making.  At least, as I've said, not in the business environments
I've worked in and am interested in discussing here.

[snip]

> > Passion has it's place.  It does not have a place in the discussions I
hope to see conducted
> > here.  I apologize in advance to those who are offended by my position
on this topic.  I'll
> > understand completely if you choose not to participate based on that
constraint.
>
> You seem to be saying that we should discuss things here that we do not
care
> about. I'm almost sure that's not what you mean. So please clarify?

As I said above, I expect participants here to channel their passion
productively.  For purposes of this discussion group, that means using it as
a motivator to drive the development of hypotheses, the collection of
evidence, etc. and the presentation of same in a reasoned, business-like
manner.

Best regards,
Bill


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