Re: Summing up and moving on (I hope)

Andrey Khavryuchenko <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.extreme-customering
Organization KDS Software Group
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Bill,

"BW" == Bill Walton wrote:

 BW> I was offended by Dossy's post to Glen because I believe that the
 BW> communication style employed in that post will cause business-side
 BW> participants here to leave or, at best, to continue to lurk.  I also
 BW> believe that it will cause others that I hope to have participate,
 BW> whose participation I believe may help accelerate the adoption of XP
 BW> practices in the mainstream, to choose not to participate.  

We discuss here or report?

 BW> It offends me when someone on the list works in what I perceive to be
 BW> opposition to the list's stated objectives.  

Then state who and how according _your_ perception opposes the list's
stated objectives.

 BW> Dossy's later post to Glen was in a much more appropriate style.

'Appropriate' to whom?

[...]

 BW> Level of Passion, either positive or negative, is generally a
 BW> contra-indicator for decision makers in the business environments I
 BW> work in and am interested in discussing here.  The decisions these
 BW> folks make impact the lives of hundreds, more often thousands of
 BW> people; employees, customers, stakeholders of all sorts.  They do not
 BW> trust emotion as a sound basis for decision making.  Passionate
 BW> presentations are discounted as unreliable.  Decisions made on the
 BW> basis of passion are considered unreliable.  People who make decisions
 BW> on that basis are considered unreliable.  

I thing you've missed the world 'only':  
        Decisions made *only* on the basis of passion...
        People who make decisions on that *only* basis...

 BW> The folks I hoped to engage when I created this list are unlikely to
 BW> spend the time to participate in a discussion here if it appears that
 BW> passion, rather than reason, is the basis for discussion.

Until you've got a real person that refuses to participate this list on
that basis, this is only your hallucination.

 BW> Passion has it's place.  It does not have a place in the discussions I
 BW> hope to see conducted here.  

Then why not speaking in Fortran or C or Eiffel on this list?  I hardly
believe it is possible to talk any human language w/o passion.

BTW, WTF is 'business-side' discussion?  People either discuss the matter,
perform a ceremony or just party.  

Please, explain which one is 'business-side' discussion?

-- 
Andrey V Khavryuchenko            http://www.kds.com.ua/
Silver Bullet Software Solutions  http://www.kds.com.ua/edu/

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